So Summoners! Someone posted this on reddit. Discuss!

[BlueCoconut]

Garuda is better even if you don't include Contagion. This guy is trying to theorycraft from scratch, not knowing half of what he is talking about, and spewing incorrect results.

Did you read my post? That was the low accuracy version, I specifically stated that I made an assumption (since my parser came out 95% hit rate on garuda in coil with 432 accuracy). However, someone else provided theirs, and so I re-ran it with different accuracy numbers, and now give 3 different options depending on what you believe accuracy cap to be (shown below is the lowest one) and I agree with your 448 ACC. After that is the 459 ACC build.

443 ACC:

Allagan Grimoire of Casting
Summoner's Horn
Summoner's Doublet
Summoner's Ringbands
Allagan Rope Belt of Casting
Allagan Breeches of Casting
Allagan Boots of Casting (version 2.05)
Hero's Necklace of Casting
Tremor Earrings of Casting
Hero's Bracelet of Casting
Allagan Ring of Casting
Hero's Ring of Casting

[T0rin]

Did you read my post? That was the low accuracy version, I specifically stated that I made an assumption (since my parser came out 95% hit rate on garuda in coil with 432 accuracy). However, someone else provided theirs, and so I re-ran it with different accuracy numbers, and now give 3 different options depending on what you believe accuracy cap to be (shown below is the lowest one) and I agree with your 448 ACC. After that is the 459 ACC build.

I read it, before the edits, before Kevee corrected the wrong assumptions. At first, it was the only version, that's when the red flag went up for me.

There is no 'believing' what the accuracy cap is.. for those of us doing Turn 5, we _know_ the accuracy cap is 449 or 450. We don't need a parser to tell us. I'm not trying to sound elitist or something, but you make it sound like this is something that is up for debate.

The DPS lost from using the 459 build is not worth the gains from Garuda (<0.5% accuracy) compared to the 448 build, and the DPS gained from the 443 build is less than what you would lose from Garuda. Simply put, the 448 build is BiS.

[BlueCoconut]

"For those of us doing Turn 5"

I consider myself among that group, as I have downed twintania 4 times as summoner, with various groups. And across all of my runs, my ACC has been 432 exactly, and garuda, on ACT parser was running at 95% hit rate when I bothered to actually look at the numbers.

I have been shown more data that shows otherwise, so that is why I am making an "exception" because enough people are arguing about different accuracy numbers. I will be honest, I didn't check it too frequently (probably about 3 times in the past 2 months of playing, and maybe my statistics for those runs that I looked at my garuda miss rate... was just lucky) So, because of statistics, I am giving the alternatives.

[Kevee]

"For those of us doing Turn 5"

I consider myself among that group, as I have downed twintania 4 times as summoner, with various groups. And across all of my runs, my ACC has been 432 exactly, and garuda, on ACT parser was running at 95% hit rate when I bothered to actually look at the numbers.

I have been shown more data that shows otherwise, so that is why I am making an "exception" because enough people are arguing about different accuracy numbers. I will be honest, I didn't check it too frequently (probably about 3 times in the past 2 months of playing, and maybe my statistics for those runs that I looked at my garuda miss rate... was just lucky) So, because of statistics, I am giving the alternatives.

Sitting at 442 accuracy put me, on average, at 97.5% accuracy, but some attempts were as low as 81%.

[T0rin]

"For those of us doing Turn 5"

I consider myself among that group, as I have downed twintania 4 times as summoner, with various groups. And across all of my runs, my ACC has been 432 exactly, and garuda, on ACT parser was running at 95% hit rate when I bothered to actually look at the numbers.

I have been shown more data that shows otherwise, so that is why I am making an "exception" because enough people are arguing about different accuracy numbers. I will be honest, I didn't check it too frequently (probably about 3 times in the past 2 months of playing, and maybe my statistics for those runs that I looked at my garuda miss rate... was just lucky) So, because of statistics, I am giving the alternatives.

Then I guess all I have to say is: Pay more attention to parser results.

Nobody is really arguing pet accuracy, because all of the data shows the cap is either 449 or 450. We know for sure that 450 is 100% accuracy. We know that 448 is _very close_ to 100% accuracy. It might cap at 449. It is definitely capped at 450. Saying there is an argument or suggesting any cap lower than that is simply bad information and confusing the issue for people that aren't in T5 and don't have access to parser data. There is no need for exceptions, they simply muddy the waters. If people want max DPS, they pick the 448 set. If they want to do sub-optimal DPS, they can use whatever hell else they want.

There is one BiS set, there is one accuracy cap. There is no arguing anything except stat weights, and even then, I don't think the BiS set would change if you value Det or Spell Speed higher than most people do.