So Summoners! Someone posted this on reddit. Discuss!

[Kevee]

You didn't lose Thunder 2 months ago.

Only thing for certain here is you can't now until 2.1 hits and you go out and do some testing to confirm.

Theorycrafting based on tests performed in 2.0 suggest, however, that the loss of Thunder not only diminishes SMN DPS by small chunk, but also significantly diminishes the value and effect of Contagion (the skill that was the primary reason Garuda > Ifrit universally) and gives Ifrit the edge.

Ifrit straight out parses less than Garuda.

Like I said, we've already been over this 2 months ago.

I'm not acting like that, I'm taking it into consideration. Simply put if you can use Contagion from Garuda every cooldown and use Ifrit for the rest then it SHOULD be stronger.

Also, if not switching pets mid-fight and also not fighting more than one mob (because Contagion > Bane is really strong) then Ifrit SHOULD (this means im speculating on how the SMN should work and not how it may or may not actually work) be stronger than Garuda for the same reason that Melee are getting buffed (IE Ifrit is going to die).

To say Ifrit SHOULD never be used is a waste of an action I'd rather push SMN and/or SE if not balanced, rather than have a job with 4 actions instead of 5. Or in this case more than 1 pet to use.

Can you even read?

This is one of the things SMNs were mad about.

All we got was stuff taken, and none of our issues were addressed.