umm...

[Moonfall]

so any1 else notice that the titan weapons are BETTER then relic now? lol

[nostrade]

its the same item level as philo relic, 80

[Risae]

Both of you are wrong,

1- There is no new titan wp, there are EM primal quest weapons.

2- EM primal weapon are ilvl90 and for BLM it looks to be better than Relic +1.

Yeah, sure, no.

He meant the non +1 versions of the relic weapons. They are now equal to the Titan Hard mode items.

[Escadora]

Both of you are wrong,

1- There is no new titan wp, there are EM primal quest weapons.

2- EM primal weapon are ilvl90 and for BLM it looks to be better than Relic +1.

Nah, you're wrong. The item levels for Titan weapons increased to i80. For example, the bow of crags, is essentially better than the relic bow, due to the addition of determination and attack/AA damage increase.

[DenzelTaru]

Both of you are wrong,

1- There is no new titan wp, there are EM primal quest weapons.

2- EM primal weapon are ilvl90 and for BLM it looks to be better than Relic +1.

[nostrade]

The item level of the following gear has been changed, and their parameters revised accordingly:

ists of Crags 70 → 80
Fists of Crags 70 → 80
The Spear of Crags 70 → 80
The Spear of Crags 70 → 80
The Cane of Crags 70 → 80
The Cudgel of Crags 70 → 80
The Greater Key of Titan 70 → 80
The Greater Key of Titan 70 → 80
The Wall of Crags 70 → 80

[Narcissus]

The weapons that drop from HM titan are as good as the relics, as they should be.

[NeoAmon]

Not bad HM titan, you got drop buffed ^^.

[Moonfall]

yea.. so all that work you do to get a relic.. just went out the window when you can clear dam near most of the content w/o the +1 (or zenith now). so kinda sucks..