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    This is how new MMOs DONT make it.

    I mean we all know the big baddies: WoW, FFXI, EQ...etc.

    I mean we can all remember things they did while they were young that were incredibly stupid.

    I mean this housing fiasco is by far taking the cake, but this is how new mmo's die. One mistake and boom, that's it folks.

    Im talking to those of you who are looking to reclaim that old mmo home feel. To those of you who are getting worn from placing your hopes in that new shiny game that just lets you down (like today, like this weekend).

    Im not saying ignore this craziness, im not saying pretend it's the best thing ever. All I ask is to take a step back, and see the bigger picture. Our favorite genre is dying before us. We give so little %^&*s for new games that we make them fight their 9-11 year old seniors who have expansion right hooks and casual and hardcore lefties.
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    FFXI is considered a big baddie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narcissus View Post
    FFXI is considered a big baddie?
    Just in the amount of content and it's age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narcissus View Post
    FFXI is considered a big baddie?
    FFXI is one of the longest running subscription based MMO's in existence and is currently the most profitable Final Fantasy to date. Heck, it came out in 2002 and it just released another expansion this year - eleven years later. I'd say its a big baddie. 95% of other subscription MMO's have gone Free to Play within months. Why do you think they decided to make another FF MMO? (^_^ ;; )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactimus View Post
    FFXI is one of the longest running subscription based MMO's in existence and is currently the most profitable Final Fantasy to date.
    [Citation needed]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    [Citation needed]
    http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/...of-all-time-is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
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    I dont think FFXI is one of the longest running MMOs ever. It's been going for a while, but some other games (the realm online which launched in 1996) have been going much longer. Regarding profitability, FFXI is the most profitable Final Fantasy game to date, per former CEO Yoichi Wada:

    "...Square Enix CEO Yoichi Wada heralded Final Fantasy XI as the most profitable of all past Final Fantasy games..."
    http://kotaku.com/5921037/the-most-p...ill-paying-for
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    Ico Dailemont @ Hyperion (formerly Durandal (formerly Rabanastre))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
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    LOL really? FFXI which I still sub to and have been playing for the past 11 years, is one of the longest subscription based MMO's in existence, even before WoW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xairos View Post
    Just in the amount of content and it's age.

    FFXI has more content than any game I can possibly imagine, or even dream of. It's age and UI is about the only thing against it.
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    None of those "big baddies" really have housing. EQ might, I haven't played it in several years now. What is this housing fiasco you speak of? The prices for the FC houses? You mean the thing 200 people can buy together? The thing that has abolutely no impact on game play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    What we suffer is "the curse of knowledge". For new people, most of the dungeons after level 24 is considered "intense". For us, we just don't understand why newbies do not "get the mechanic" when everything is spelled out for you right in front of your screen... For them Brayflox is HARD ("you want me to Esuna all of you? move out of the way? and cure three people???), Sunken Temple is "ZOMG WTF was that", Cutter's Cry was "intense" and Titan "baby trial" was "fck this, I swear I ran and out of the train track from hell".

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