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    Limit Break Nerf, more info please?

    When multiple characters are playing the same class/job in a party, the gauge for level 2 and level 3 limit breaks will now fill more slowly than before
    ^ From the patch note.

    Could we please get more info on this one? Define "Multiple", I mean most groups have at least 2 Characters playing the same job. We can't help it, SMN/WAR/SCH are rare, not to mention actual good player out of theses 3 jobs is like finding a diamond on the ground while walking down the streets .

    We are currently running, 2xPLD, WHM, SCH, BLM, SMN, BRD & MNK. Since LB is part of many strats, including Coil and HM-EM Trails I think we need more info to understand the nerf.

    I mean seriously, what is next? SE picks our classes? I fully understand the need to encourage Groups to stay away from stacking but at least 2 Characters playing the same job should be allowed . It is unfair IMO.

    Note: I fully realise ever single fight can be done without LB, I just think the change is unfair.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Stacking classes (2+) is going to have diminishing returns.

    Going to be a lot better to have PLD/WAR, melee, BRD/SMN/BLM and WHM/SCH instead of any stacking.
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    Complaining about encouraging class diversity. Now I've heard it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Stacking classes (2+) is going to have diminishing returns.

    Going to be a lot better to have PLD/WAR, melee, BRD/SMN/BLM and WHM/SCH instead of any stacking.
    I fully understand that. This Nerf should be towards more than 2, but not 2. Like stacking 2xBLMs and 2xBards, this I agree with. However, as an example in my case, we have 2 great PLDs and they love their job, can't just say hey one of ya guys need to lvl up and gear up a WAR . This is the unfair part I'm talking about.
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    this is not encouraging. it's torturing, punishing and enforcing everyone to use only meta composite party(full 8 classes)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    Complaining about encouraging class diversity. Now I've heard it all.
    Nope, did you bother to read the post? You will see clear as day that my group that I personally built was aimed at diversity from the start and never was intended to stack. I'm all for encouraging all jobs to have a slot in groups but 2 characters playing the same job should be fine IMHO.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    I fully understand that. This Nerf should be towards more than 2, but not 2. Like stacking 2xBLMs and 2xBards, this I agree with. However, as an example in my case, we have 2 great PLDs and they love their job, can't just say hey one of ya guys need to lvl up and gear up a WAR . This is the unfair part I'm talking about.
    How is staking 2 BRD or 2 BLM any different than stacking two PLD in this case?

    [I know you're talking about having two stacks of stacked classes (two BLm AND two BRD) but that will cause the returns to be even WORSE than just 1 set of stacks. I can't imagine how slow the LB bar will creep with a PLD/PLD, BRD/BRD, BLM/BLM, WHM/WHM party...the text is also talking about any stacking, not any stacking above 2...]

    But you have to just deal with the slower LB bar if you're going to stack. It is what it is. Besides, you're also missing out on stuff other classes bring to the table when stacking (esp with the WAR buffs)
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    Mariya Shidou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellybell View Post
    this is not encouraging. it's torturing, punishing and enforcing everyone to use only meta composite party(full 8 classes)
    There are 9 jobs FYI, this is not full. There are also more jobs in the future.
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    Job stacking isn't being outlawed. So-called 'elite' groups will deal with this change just fine.
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    Clive Hawkins
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariyaShidou View Post
    There are 9 jobs FYI, this is not full. There are also more jobs in the future.
    "Those poor Dragoons. All alone. Never invited to a party. Forced to form their own groups. Paying gil for a good group. Farewell Dragoon. Farewell." -Monks
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