First article about the House pricing.

[Curcio]

It saddens me to see the minority can't accept other people's points of view without labeling them "haters". I'll say it again: Just because someone disagrees with them doesn't mean they hate the game and want it to fail.

I actually haven't seen the word hater used on this forum, so I feel like you're making that up. But either way: I agree with you. Just because you have a different opinion than I do doesn't mean you're wrong about the housing prices. I agree they need to go down. How much is debatable.

We're not in disagreement here, though I can't help but notice you can't formulate your own way of wording something and just have to copy what other people say. I guess it is flattery.

[Bizniztyme]

It saddens me to see the minority can't accept other people's points of view without labeling them "haters". I'll say it again: Just because someone disagrees with them doesn't mean they hate the game and want it to fail.

Isn't it the same can be said about everyone that is complaining automatically labeling someone that disagrees with them a white knight, fan boy, etc, etc?

[Miq2]

I run a company of 20-30 ppl only i think 7 of which do Coil. I have farmed my ass off on the market boards in the past month I made 4 mil to buy my FC a house. I would never ask individuals I do not know IRL to donate these large sums of money to me. I was hoping I would at least get something for them, no cost to them just me. I was wrong sub has been cancelled because albeit some may not have looked at housing too much it was My reason for staying. Ah well

[Shadowedge]

It might be worth pointing out that buying land is also intended as a massive gil sink to remove huge amounts of gil from the system at one time. Sure there's no way in hell my FC could afford a decent plot of land now, but in a month or two, when the vast majority of the wealth has been removed from the system, SE will have no choice but to lower the prices. Plus, this is FC housing anyway. Only the select few in an FC will be given access to adjust layouts at whatnot in the house. Personal housing, when it's released, has to be cheaper, right?

[Kako0404]

I remember in FFXI i had to wake up in the middle of the night to water my plants in game to grow my elemental ores in order to afford my Vermillion Cloak and it became a status symbol; there are certain things in an MMO that should be very hard to attain at the beginning until the inevitable nerf. Nevertheless, I agree the prices can come down a bit but I don't have a problem starting high and then let the market dictate decide how much lower prices should come down before people start buying in to gain maximum effect on money sinking as long as the price movements are done quickly. People should realize by now that MMO is a microcosm of the real world, not a distraction or escape from it.

[kukurumei]

I remember in FFXI i had to wake up in the middle of the night to water my plants in game to grow my elemental ores in order to afford my Vermillion Cloak and it became a status symbol; there are certain things in an MMO that should be very hard to attain at the beginning until the inevitable nerf. Nevertheless, I agree the prices can come down a bit but I don't have a problem starting high and then let the market dictate decide how much lower prices should come down before people start buying in to gain maximum effect on money sinking as long as the price movements are done quickly. People should realize by now that MMO is a microcosm of the real world, not a distraction or escape from it.

They need to slash a zero off that before it becomes remotely marketable. Right now the it seems the ratio of a 90day later scenario is "we've reach the half way mark".
this is 90 days 360 times max reduction.

Right now the lands are probably the combine gil of an entire city. That means the land is affordable on day 1 if everyone on the server chipped in.

What they should have done is actually reduce the price by 14% (not .14%) every 6hrs, and then slap a "sell out" option. Then introduce more instances based on the initial sales prices and slow the reduction rate accordingly.

[Kako0404]

Right now the lands are probably the combine gil of an entire city. That means the land is affordable on day 1 if everyone on the server chipped in.

What they should have done is actually reduce the price by 14% (not .14%) every 6hrs, and then slap a "sell out" option. Then introduce more instances based on the initial sales prices and slow the reduction rate accordingly.

I happen to think there are quite a few hidden multi millionaires in game right now and they obviously don't want to draw attention to themselves. If they slash a 0 then the prices are "at market' for sure. For now they just need to implement the price decay as you've described. For % based decay even 5% would compound very quickly. Everyone seems to be focusing at the highest price plots but they should be looking at the entry point instead. The tier 1 plots should remain extremely expensive since they can't always create more land (it will piss even more people off).

[Steady]

Just from personal experience, you get about 250-300k doing all the missions while leveling, cause I had about this much going forward. I think In total, I've had as much as 500k.

However, I also know we have crafters in our FC that have donated 1 million+ toward housing for our FC, so it's hard to imagine it's going to be as bad as people are talking. Though I'm on Gilgamesh server, and ours isn't as heavily hit as others.

[Dhex]

[Meenkieblade]

Just my 2 cents;

GREAT SUGGESTION FOLLOWS! (imo!)
Lets see starter houses! Something around a few hundred thousand gil or so...with a few things customizable.
About the equivalent of a van down by the river...Maybe a shack on a hill...Thief's den!
Maybe these could be located in the hamlets scattered around! Kind of like living in the suburbs.


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It's fine to have some high rank housing to work towards! I'd love to see our FC upgrade from a p.o.s. first house to a mansion at some point!

The crappy thing is...these HUGE price tags to even get started is just wrong. If anything, it encourages players to buy gil and get banned in the process. >_< Face it, this isn't the best way to get an FC to work together. SE is kind of assuming everyone in an FC is driven to build the bank....and that's just not true. Only the most hardcore FCs have most of their' members grinding like that. It's just not realistic.