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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellybell View Post
    it WAS 100 potency, ham, will be 50 soon. also Eos can Rouse and Fey Illu, while WHM only has Divine Seals
    30 seconds is useless, half of it will just went down the drain because we NEED to top party HP up since first 5-15 second

    and yup, only part WHM will be need is the fight where you need to stacking up to eat CureIII, super niche fight

    these are just my current opinion tho
    need to see how it played out with next coil WHM run and i thinks i'll try dual SCH coil run for another week
    i know it will be 50 potency, my point is that even with the "nerf" it will still outheal eos' whispering dawn on an equally geared scholar not only because of the up front heal but because it ticks longer

    at any rate none of the changes to white mage or scholar will be particularly noticeable (except for the fairy fix), whereas the virus and RoD changes will be
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsteak View Post
    i know it will be 50 potency, my point is that even with the "nerf" it will still outheal eos' whispering dawn on an equally geared scholar not only because of the up front heal but because it ticks longer

    at any rate none of the changes to white mage or scholar will be particularly noticeable (except for the fairy fix), whereas the virus and RoD changes will be
    um forgive me but being able to heal x amount in 15 seconds as opposed to being able to heal x amount in 30 secondes is pretty huge as you have to wait an extra 15 seconds to recast or waste half of your hot healing for on demand healing so yea....its a nerf to aoe healing ability. even with divine seal a fairy's regen will be on par when combined with rouse and illumination...fact.../thread

    by reading you other posts you clearly have no clue how a Whm plays.
    You also seem to think a system where utility is innate is equal to one based around RNG. Mindboggling but...can I have whatever it is that you're smoking?
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    Last edited by KahnMeido; 12-16-2013 at 06:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KahnMeido View Post
    um forgive me but being able to heal x amount in 15 seconds as opposed to being able to heal x amount in 30 secondes is pretty huge as you have to wait an extra 15 seconds to recast or waste half of your hot healing for on demand healing so yea....its a nerf to aoe healing ability. even with divine seal a fairy's regen will be on par when combined with rouse and illumination...fact.../thread

    by reading you other posts you clearly have no clue how a Whm plays.
    You also seem to think a system where utility is innate is equal to one based around RNG. Mindboggling but...can I have whatever it is that you're smoking?
    or (and this is crazy!) you can cast cure 3 and heal those targets to full/near full since as i've already stated

    "where else in coil do you need aoe healing besides twintania? medica 2 will be even better for turn 2 since it will last longer and heal through the constant aoe without overhealing and cure 3 will be even better for twintania"

    your scholar should be using succor and sacred soil when it's up to offset fireball damage

    edit: these whine threads are giving me a massive headache so i won't be responding; in the only content that matters there's only 1 fight where burst aoe healing is needed and cure 3 is miles ahead of medica 2 there, if you can't see that then i don't know what to tell you
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    Last edited by hamsteak; 12-16-2013 at 07:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsteak View Post
    i know it will be 50 potency, my point is that even with the "nerf" it will still outheal eos' whispering dawn on an equally geared scholar not only because of the up front heal but because it ticks longer

    at any rate none of the changes to white mage or scholar will be particularly noticeable (except for the fairy fix), whereas the virus and RoD changes will be
    Whispering dawn will tick for 21 secs, even if you say it is less potent how does it not out heal medica 2 after factoring in rouse which adds 40%. Tested it today and rouse/whispering dawn ticks for more than my divine seal/medica 2 ticks for. Even with the initial heal the fairy aoe is very strong, free and succor should be considered, since more than likely the sch will succor at the same time they pop the aoe heal for maximum effect.
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    Last edited by Eriane; 12-16-2013 at 11:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eriane View Post
    Whispering dawn will tick for 21 secs, even if you say it is less potent how does it not out heal medica 2 after factoring in rouse which adds 40%. Tested it today and rouse/whispering dawn ticks for more than my divine seal/medica 2 ticks for. Even with the initial heal the fairy aoe is very strong, free and succor should be considered, since more than likely the sch will succor at the same time they pop the aoe heal for maximum effect.
    pretty much this, and the lustrate buff is pretty large...even if you dont think its large an extra 2-300 hp from lustrate on a war per se is pretty big
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