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  1. #61
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    Omegakiyohime's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    There is also a lot of the player base that gives two shits about forums or patch notes. So shit hasn't even hit the fan yet until people go to try and buy a house. And its not going to take a month for SE to get their numbers, 1-2 weeks at the most and that's accounting for people having to get rank 6 to even purchase the land.


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    That's assuming people even have to "get" to rank 6. FC points didn't stop accumulating when people hit rank 5. Many FCs that started within a month of release are going to hit rank 6-8 as soon as the patch is up. It's going to take more than a month because SE didn't assume that people would be buying large houses within the first few weeks. They have a set time period (unknown to us) where they think people will buy houses and that probably takes the increased gil generation of 2.1 into account. I would put any change to prices at 1-2 months at the earlier and 3 months at the latest. Hopefully, the forum posts will make them relook at the numbers that they used to set the prices (i.e. gil spread among FCs/characters), but I don't see them changing course without letting gil generation changes take effect.

    I do think that the 1400+ would/should warrant a look into their initial data. I wouldn't get my hopes up that anything south of 100,000, which is impossible to get overnight (unless you are Beyonce), is going to make a sudden change. And even then, what's the change going to be? Are they going to slash a zero, or are they going to reduce the initial price by half? It's going to take time no matter what decision they choose.
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    Last edited by Omegakiyohime; 12-16-2013 at 09:18 AM.

  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronzeru View Post
    We do live in the same world. And technically, the same world is the same way. Those who don't put in effort won't earn a big nice home on the beach lol. I hate the prices too. But at the same time i'm not bitching all 'I want it now'. And in my opinion 'white knighting' are those who are jumping up at arms to make things so available right HERE AND NOW for the masses.... and the same masses once they get the shit 'here and now', will later on be complaining about how it was too easy to obtain, and thereby not worth it.

    Players really don't even understand their own wants and desires to the point its kinda lulzworthy.
    Sadly, this.

    I'm of two minds on the issue. On the one hand I'm saying "now do you see why I wanted full wipes on gil all through beta and even before it but legacy players kept telling me it would ruin the game to reset all server economies?". On the other, yes I agree the prices are high but it's also meant to be something to work towards over a long term, specially when keeping in mind that housing is not really complete.

    If you want a decent comparison, Clan bonuses and ranking were expensive as hell in certain old korean grinder MMOs. Lineage II in particular had the leader make notable sacrifices in order to be able to upgrade their clan to an acceptable level. Specially for small clans, it took a looooooooong time to gather the money and SP needed to rank up continuously, and the prices got more and more ridiculous the further up you went. And the prices shown for Free Company housing give me flashbacks to those days. I can't say whether it is a good thing or not, but I will also mention that some of you wanted long term stuff to work towards because you got bored of farming myth/phil stones and running WP/AK daily. In a way, you got what you asked for. >.>
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
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  3. #63
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    Thank you for your translation of my post!

    We are in completely agreement with many of the NA players.
    Yes, this is very very sad, unhappy thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anemone-aura View Post
    Thank you for your translation of my post!

    We are in completely agreement with many of the NA players.
    Yes, this is very very sad, unhappy thing.
    Agreed. I don't know what went wrong on SE's end but hopefully with all of us in agreement SE will take note and fix things.
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    No more cast bars for Bard! Thank you, Yoshi-P! All hail our lord and savior!

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    I guess SE will take some time to analyze the effective reactions of the players into the game, i only hope this feeling of unfairness reach them.
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    Not leaving the first page. so says this BUMP
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    The Japanese players have linked back this post asking for their players to like our posts back. Japanese and English players are uniting in their dislike of the current prices set forth by the 2.1 patch. =D
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    A man once said...



    so be very afraid SE. Now the people have gathered.
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    I think this is all just a plan to try and take away money from the richest people in the economy as housing at the moment doesn't provide any major benefits currently but will be expanded on in further patches. After 90 days the land will most likely hit their half price and only a few more will sell. I assume at this point they are going to check the gil on the servers and heavily modify the prices based on availability and remaining gil on the economy.

    Perhaps with the huge costs of land on some servers they are trying to push some FC's onto a cheaper server and spread population more evenly too (not to mention the additional cash they would generate from the server transfer fees)

    I am disappointed as I feel they have excluded the majority from this content immediately when they had announced it as a supposed popular casual feature.

    Or Square-Enix just screwed up which I think is most likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firepower View Post
    I think this is all just a plan to try and take away money from the richest people in the economy as housing at the moment doesn't provide any major benefits currently but will be expanded on in further patches. After 90 days the land will most likely hit their half price and only a few more will sell. I assume at this point they are going to check the gil on the servers and heavily modify the prices based on availability and remaining gil on the economy.


    I am disappointed as I feel they have excluded the majority from this content immediately when they had announced it as a supposed popular casual feature.

    Or Square-Enix just screwed up which I think is most likely.
    Rich people get rich by not spending money foolishly.

    What makes you think they are just going to drop 300mil on a house?
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