DPS standings post 2.1

[Kiokin]

S: MNK
A: BLM/DRG
B: SMN/BRD

Monk was overbuffed. Slight nerf to BLM and decent buff to DRG will put them on a similar level. SMN will still do more damage than BRD, but BRD songs >>> swiftcast res and nerfed virus. I can see SMN going extinct until the next patch.

While I agree that the Monk buffs may have been excessive, you can't deny that a Monk's DPS completely plummets if the boss isn't attackable for 13~ seconds. Considering Monks need quite a bit of time to get back up to full power, if you consider most Primals (for example) become unable to be attacked multiple times throughout the fight, it balances out.

[Drakent]

S: MNK
A: BLM/DRG
B: SMN/BRD

Monk was overbuffed. Slight nerf to BLM and decent buff to DRG will put them on a similar level. SMN will still do more damage than BRD, but BRD songs >>> swiftcast res and nerfed virus. I can see SMN going extinct until the next patch.

when it come to the SMN part i am gona have to say that you are completely mistaken b/c the virus nerf is affecting the classes that can sub it, since smn virus reduces all stats by 15% when subing virus only reduces str and dex by 15%

The virus nerf is pretty much making it subing useless and making smn more important to have in the group

also there isnt any nerf on swift cast or res , smn is the only dps that can cast rest , so making a group and not having the only dps that can reduce all stat by 15% plus the only dps that can raise, is a group i know is gona have a hard time or fail

[Ericyu]

also for DRG's Full Thrust received a potency increase from 300 to 330. I doubt that will be enough to hit the 1.5k crit mark but we'll see....

It would of been nice if they would of adjusted the recast timers on jumps just a tad but hey with enough people crying over the mnk buff we might see it in an upcoming patch. 2.2 info scheduled for Jan. right?

[Wolfenkritter]

Single Target:
Monk > Dragoon > Summoner > Black Mage > Bard

AoE:
Black Mage > Summoner > Dragoon = Bard > Monk

[pandabearcat]

Single target: MNK >>>>>>>>>>> why are you even considering another class.

Cleave: SMN >>>>> noone else matters

AoE (sustained): BLM >>>>>>>>>> noone else matters.

Basically, same as before, except MNKs are much better ST now, and slightly better AoE.

[BrandoH]

MNK was already insanely high DPS, and now they got some small buffs (as well as much less likely to lose Greased Lightning when avoiding boss mechanics). DRG was kinda low, buffs put them where they should be. SMNs only lost, at maximum, 10% of their DPS. BLM lost Virus utility and the Blizzard in their AOE rotation got its potency cut in half. Bards are going to have to sing way more often after 2.1, so that's a 20% dps loss when using 2 of their songs. I'd say it's something likeee:

MNK > SMN >= DRG > BLM >>> BRD

[Fubar4585]

Wouldn't including jumps during GCD be buffing DRG substantially? I used to do it when I didn't know the correct rotation and ALMOST got away with it but, Due to animation length it hurt my dmg. With lower animation time I can see DRG doing a bit better depending on the CD.

[BrandoH]

Wouldn't including jumps during GCD be buffing DRG substantially? I used to do it when I didn't know the correct rotation and ALMOST got away with it but, Due to animation length it hurt my dmg. With lower animation time I can see DRG doing a bit better depending on the CD.

Using Jumps between GCDs are always a DMG buff. Always. Now we'll just be able to fit them in without clipping GCD.

[Kuroyasha]

Would the BfB being nerfed cross class not give DRG an adv over mnk? Honest question as I havent delved into mnk/drg myself very much yet. I mean I know mnk gets the GL buff and true strike and bootshine, but does a 30% DRG-exclusive Bfb plus their own atk buffs not put them on top or very close to it?

One thing I loved when I read the notes was shoulder tackle being reduced to 30 sec. Now you can just go across the room all the time like a ninja >....or a super saiyan with all that yellow lol

[Aeliott]

I think they break even, it's just made the DRG = Burst / MNK = sustained even more distinct. While a good MNK still has the advantage over a sustained fight, the bursting for DPS-rush phases on DRG is immense.
I agree MNK got over-buffed though. The potency buffs to TS and Bootshine are fine, and the positional change to Demolish is just a small difficulty increase, but the Greased Lightning buff is a bit much. Especially considering good Monks could already sustain it in end-game content except for things like Ifrit dashes. Even in Coil, every turn except the last in certain phases is easy to keep it up. I have to wonder if the people complaining about it falling off all the time were too vocal, when GL is part of the skill / reward of playing the most complex DPS job. 27% more damage at GLIII over a long fight is some crazy stuff. It might end up balancing with the other job changes, but on paper it seems a bit much right now.