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  1. #51
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    PriyaJugulataris's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Princess Priya
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    KeeVee, I gotta say you and pandabearcat are my inspirations from when i started playing this game as a summoner.
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  2. #52
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    Stupified's Avatar
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    Al Ugrin
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50

    Summoner Got Destroyed This Patch

    SE has officially made SMN, my main, useless in end game raiding. SMN was already on the low end of single target DPS and burst DPS, now SMN is Officially the worst single target dps with the loss of thunder, and was probably already the worst burst dps.

    - Replacing Thunder with Blizzard 2 is an absolute Joke
    - Having us have our pets on full "Sic" or be forced to control ALL pet actions is unusable.
    - Most endgame content most difficulty fights are single target checks and burst checks, both of which SMN were weak before this nerf and now completely useless for
    - SMN was a good dps by by no means on average the best dps, yet SE decided we should be "Balanced" by making us have no purpose for single target or burst DPS

    Overall, I am done playing SMN till they fix our class. Thank God I leveled BLM as I am being forced to play that class now by default as I still want to be a caster

    *Requiem of the Summoner
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  3. #53
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    Sylari's Avatar
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    Asriel Blackthorne
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Stupified View Post
    SE has officially made SMN, my main, useless in end game raiding.
    The nerfs suck but melodrama like this doesn't help us.

    So does nonsense like claiming that summoners were "weak" at single target DPS.
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  4. #54
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    Nemhy Viteri
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Stupified View Post
    SMN was already on the low end of single target DPS

    AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!! oh...you were serious?

    ........

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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  5. #55
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    Sargent's Avatar
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    Cuore Mist
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    The thing I find most ridiculous about the removal of Thunder is that SCH still gets access to Aero.
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  6. #56
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    Kalandros's Avatar
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    Kalandros Shadowsun
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    As a SMN with Twintania down and just missing the Book, how dare you put nerf in quotes?

    How dare you say "adapt and adjust?"
    What is there to adapt and adjust to?

    How DARE you say "Learn2Play?"
    Yes, because making the class easier by removing another timer certainly calls for more skill needed..
    How dare you whine about a change without testing it first hand?
    How dare you jump at me for treating the "nerf" as a balancing?
    How DARE you all caps that last DARE?

    Just play the damn patch before complaining

    I think all their testings is done with maxed out gear - I will even try to get a full spell speed set just to see how it differs, missing a few allagan pieces for that.
    Also interested in seeing the new i90 Accessories to replace some Hero accessories or even Allagan accessories maybe.

    I look forward to this patch because this "nerf" isn't the end of Summoners. Its a change. Adjust, adapt, melt faces.
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  7. #57
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    Kevee's Avatar
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    Zelia Sarrasin
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalandros View Post
    How dare you whine about a change without testing it first hand?
    How dare you jump at me for treating the "nerf" as a balancing?
    How DARE you all caps that last DARE?

    Just play the damn patch before complaining

    I think all their testings is done with maxed out gear - I will even try to get a full spell speed set just to see how it differs, missing a few allagan pieces for that.
    Also interested in seeing the new i90 Accessories to replace some Hero accessories or even Allagan accessories maybe.

    I look forward to this patch because this "nerf" isn't the end of Summoners. Its a change. Adjust, adapt, melt faces.
    -There is nothing to test. We're just losing a skill. Nothing is being gained, our playstyle isn't going to change. Our rotation isn't going to be changed(minus thunder).
    -Because this is NOT the right way to balance things, at all. It's a nerf--Stop putting in quotes. I made no comment on if we needed it or not. This patch sets a horrible precedent for how they nerf things, and for whatever reason they value MYTH pieces over DROPPED pieces(one with ACCURACY, at that).
    -Because "Learn2Play" when the class is getting easier means nothing.

    The rest of your post is still garbage.
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  8. #58
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    Kalandros Shadowsun
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    The rest of your post is still garbage.
    Can't you act a bit more civil?
    As for the "nerf", again, provide exact numbers yourself if its such a massive nerf that it might ruin the class?
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  9. #59
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    Nemhy Viteri
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I feel like I should ask you this Kevee, before you use up all your daily posts replying to nonsense. :P What do you think about Summoner's DPS standings with the other classes once 2.1 hits? Below Monk I'm sure because they're getting buffed to be even broken than SMN was before this patch. But do you think Dragoons will surpass us in ST as well? What about BLM's now? (I know that some of these vary a lot depending on encounter but I would love just a general opinion from you. since I hold your Summoner posts/opinions pretty highly)
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  10. #60
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    Nemhy's Avatar
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    Nemhy Viteri
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalandros View Post
    Can't you act a bit more civil?
    As for the "nerf", again, provide exact numbers yourself if its such a massive nerf that it might ruin the class?
    Where did he say the nerf will "ruin" the class? He is clearly stating it's a nerf. Also, just letting you know. Yes it is balancing but that doesn't make it any less of a nerf, just like the balancing for DRG aren't any less of buffs. Are you not calling it a nerf because it doesn't "ruin" the class? The terms balancing and nerfing are pretty synonymous.
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    Last edited by Nemhy; 12-16-2013 at 04:20 AM.

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