Summoner got destroyed this patch

[Truedragon]

So, out of curiosity,

So, yeah. So much for SPAM RUIN MOAR. and the amount of damage loss is staggering.

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Summoner got destroyed this patch

All I can say, is GOOD. We all saw this coming but for those too arrogant to know what is going on. While certainly skills do play a role, the reality is that many smn were doing so well because they had the WIND in their backs. The game mechanics favored risk free range dps and if you were not completely incompetent, you would be riding the train all the way to the bank. While other classes had to work hard and still had the wind in their faces.

We all know this is true. No point in denying this. If you realize that the game mechanics were skewed towards you, then you also understand why they lowered your dps.

[Karnage720]

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This might be one of the most idiotic things I've read on the forums for a while. SMN isn't BRD. Bard is easy to play. You have to be REALLY dumb to be a bad Bard. Summoners, however actually requires skill and competency. There are A LOT of bad SMNs out there. I would say more than 60% of SMNs are trash. Just go DF and see how many of them use Ifrit post 45 as opposed to Garuda. A good SMN will be top or close to top DPS, a regular one, meh. A bad one? Bottom DPS. You? You are probably the ruin spammer SMN going by that asinine comment.

[Truedragon]

This might be one of the most idiotic things I've read on the forums for a while. SMN isn't BRD. Bard is easy to play. You have to be REALLY dumb to be a bad Bard. Summoners, however actually requires skill and competency.

In denial much? Oh those bitter tears taste so sweet.

Quite obvious that you are in denial much. This isnt about difficulty to play. This is about ranged dps being completely risk free. Like you hardly ever get attacked. You hardly ever have to run for AoE. You hardly ever have to stop attacking. You_dont_have_risks_like_melees_do.

So what if you are more difficult to play than Brds? That higher difficulty already translated itself into higher dps unless you think Brds outdps Smns. You were already being rewarded and still will be higher than Brd dps. But do keep those bitter tears coming.

And at least stop calling me names, will you. Try to keep it civilized.

[Viridiana]

This is about ranged dps being completely risk free. Like you hardly ever get attacked. You hardly ever have to run for AoE. You hardly ever have to stop attacking. You_dont_have_risks_like_melees_do.

Everything past HM Ifrit would like to have a word with you.

[Phai]

Everything past HM Ifrit would like to have a word with you.

Hey now, let the person adapt to AK before saying stuff like that, u can hurt some feelings

[PriyaJugulataris]

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All I can say, is GOOD. We all saw this coming but for those too arrogant to know what is going on. While certainly skills do play a role, the reality is that many smn were doing so well because they had the WIND in their backs. The game mechanics favored risk free range dps and if you were not completely incompetent, you would be riding the train all the way to the bank. While other classes had to work hard and still had the wind in their faces.

We all know this is true. No point in denying this. If you realize that the game mechanics were skewed towards you, then you also understand why they lowered your dps.

Didn't require debuffing summoners, required buffing melees or as we talked about in other threads, changing boss mechanics to affect ranged as well. Btw, we are still preferred thanks to lack of change in Boss Mechanics. Melee tears for days. Don't know what happened in the last couple of hours, but get it together and shut it down.

[Truedragon]

Btw, we are still preferred thanks to lack of change in Boss Mechanics. Melee tears for days. Don't know what happened in the last couple of hours, but get it together and shut it down.

What if they made slight adjustments to boss mechanics...

I mean, are you playing the game right now? No? Yes?

[PriyaJugulataris]

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till T5 Coil, there are no changes so far.
EM Primals wise,
Titan is basically a mine field and seeing as there are going to be sweet spots that are safe, ranged DPS are more likely to do damage in this situation.
Garuda has adds to be dealt with, but seems to be more melee friendly, but if plumes are once again present, people are going to want classes that do good AoE (at least at first).
Ifrit is the one EM primal that I can't comment on, because it honestly seems the same but they can't have done that because it would be too easy.
Ultima has plentiful AoE's going around and so you're not getting good uptime as a melee class on it.
So yeah. I feel pretty secure in saying that ranged is going to be preferred due to less boss mechanics and more uptime on bosses.

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You see here's the thing. The only reason I'm even engaging with you on this matter is because you came into this thread to rub it in on people's faces that they got nerfed and you relished that due to some perceived injustice against in a videogame. So I took the liberty of reminding you of some harsh realities. It's not really arrogance because I'm not prideful about it, it's rubbing the harsh realities in your face. Kinda sucks doesn't it? Treat others how you want to be treated.

Please do keep that attitude up. See how far thats going to get you rofl. Go ahead and keep preferring ranged. See how many times they can nerf your classes untill you get the message.
And I am rubbing the harsh reality of the nerf hammer in your face. It is ppl like you who caused the nerf hammer to begin with.

No one really caused a nerf, the developers saw the numbers and made their choices. If you honestly think that players have that much of a say, well you're naive. Society wise people will complain and wish for the downfall of others but that's because of entitlement and competition being taught in most if not all educational spectrums within modern society. Attitude-wise, you're the one who joined a thread to poke others for your own schadenfreude needs. Also, thanks to re-balancing, should another major rebalance come out, monks are probably gonna be up there as well.

[Truedragon]

So yeah. I feel pretty secure in saying that ranged is going to be preferred due to less boss mechanics and more uptime on bosses.

Then you felt wrong. Keep that arrogant attitude up. Remember pride before fall. Remember what patch 2.1 brought to ranged dps. Remember that the same can happen again in patch 2.15.

Please do keep that attitude up. See how far thats going to get you rofl. Go ahead and keep preferring ranged. See how many times they can nerf your classes untill you get the message.

It's not really arrogance because I'm not prideful about it, it's rubbing the harsh realities in your face. Kinda sucks doesn't it?

And I am rubbing the harsh reality of the nerf hammer in your face. It is ppl like you who caused the nerf hammer to begin with.

[Leiron]

And I am rubbing the harsh reality of the nerf hammer in your face. It is ppl like you who caused the nerf hammer to begin with.

The arrogance and contempt bleeding through your post makes it pointless for anyone to hold a reasonable discussion with you.