Summoner got destroyed this patch

[Kevee]

I'm glad we have Blizzard II over Thunder. It will boost our AOE burst on 2+ mobs and improve our AOE DPS on 5+ mobs. IMO that's better than keeping the same setup but equivalent in DMG loss to gaining a more useful tool to cover our weaknesses at the same time.

Blizzard II is barely an increase over Tri-Disaster. It's 20 potency more/cast.

It's not something to be happy gaining over Thunder, at all, especially because there is no real functional use of AoEing 5+ mobs besides 2 phases in T4. Everywhere else, Thunder was superior. Both for AoE, and ST, and it rewarded skillfull play.

Why do you think there's a lot of people in these topics that have popped up saying SMN is bad? Both people who play SMN, and bystanders.

It's because there's an exceptional few who knew what they were doing, and they knew how strong they were. Did you know standing in melee and auto attacking will give you ~5-7 more DPS? I always stand in melee, always.

How many other summoners can you say do that?

[Allyrion]

It's because there's an exceptional few who knew what they were doing, and they knew how strong they were. Did you know standing in melee and auto attacking will give you ~5-7 more DPS? I always stand in melee, always.

How many other summoners can you say do that?

Does casting not interrupt auto-attacks making auto-attacks almost never go off?
If not, that'd be very useful information. I'll test it myself when servers are back as well (on my BLM).

[Kevee]

Does casting not interrupt auto-attacks making auto-attacks almost never go off?

It doesn't reset the timer, only stop it. So every ~5 casts, more often with instant casts, you'll have an auto attack. My AA hits for 60-70, ~110 crits.

Also due to the server lag/netcode, auto attacks start queuing around 3/4ths of cast completion, and can also go off at that time.





Just for giggles, I did this awhile ago:

http://i.imgur.com/3EOJgbB.png

Our auto attack is 22 DPS if all we did is auto attack/cast instant spells.

I've hit my daily posting limit. Damn.

[T0rin]

It doesn't reset the timer, only stop it. So every ~5 casts, more often with instant casts, you'll have an auto attack. My AA hits for 60-70, ~110 crits.

Also due to the server lag/netcode, auto attacks start queuing around 3/4ths of cast completion, and can also go off at that time.

Plus there is something special about hitting a big dragon with a book.

[Eulogee]

Just for giggles, I did this awhile ago:

http://i.imgur.com/3EOJgbB.png

I'm OCD.... your desktop hurts my soul..... clean that up man...

[Z0dd]

at least they did 1 good thing in this patch...our new iL 90 book has shitload accuracy in it :P (well spell speed too..seems like they really like the stat)

[PriyaJugulataris]

at least they did 1 good thing in this patch...our new iL 90 book has shitload accuracy in it :P (well spell speed too..seems like they really like the stat)

The new accesories are nice as well.
Z0dd... i used to know someone from Vindictus named that.

[Z0dd]

it's not me

[Zer0mr]

Does casting not interrupt auto-attacks making auto-attacks almost never go off?
If not, that'd be very useful information. I'll test it myself when servers are back as well (on my BLM).

Seriously if you don't believe Kevee.....

My blm auto attack - 73

My smn auto attack - 182

Check the str in the menu. Blm str is low while smn str is high.

Smn is a beast at smacking things with a book.

[Allyrion]

Seriously if you don't believe Kevee.....

It's because I believe him that I inquired about it? The testing statement has no relevance to trust.
Thanks for the str info. BLM will also suffer cause it has less instant casts (none in the standard rotation, in fact) as well as less mobility overall when in melee (or anywhere else).

I can definitely see how this works for SMNs now.