Summoner got destroyed this patch

[Sylari]

Considering the Thunder change is a nerf to all magic classes other than Thaumaturge and Black Mage, you only specifically got a nerf to Virus.

There's only one damage dealing magic class that isn't a Thaumaturge though, so that point seems kind of silly.

Hell if anything it's the other way around. The virus change more significantly impacts BLM and WHM because their (non-traited) virus is potentially not going to be used at all.

[RyuDragnier]

There's only one damage dealing magic class that isn't a Thaumaturge though, so that point seems kind of silly.

I made that point because I used Thunder on my WHM at the start of a battle before I have to start any serious healing, and only if I know the healing won't have to be spammed often, otherwise I wouldn't cast it. But that extra DPS did help whittle down some foes. On a slightly different note, that change to Blizzard II won't mean it'll see a use on my WHM for anything other than FATEs, because if I'm going to be that close to enemies, I'd rather be spamming Holy.

[Sinte]

I made that point because I used Thunder on my WHM at the start of a battle before I have to start any serious healing, and only if I know the healing won't have to be spammed often, otherwise I wouldn't cast it. But that extra DPS did help whittle down some foes. On a slightly different note, that change to Blizzard II won't mean it'll see a use on my WHM for anything other than FATEs, because if I'm going to be that close to enemies, I'd rather be spamming Holy.

Man all the raids collapsing because the white mage can't get the thunder up on the boss... I can see the panic spread across Eorzea. This was a slap in the face to summoners, and summoners only, when it comes to raids. Lets be real here.

[Peptaru]

Man all the raids collapsing because the white mage can't get the thunder up on the boss... I can see the panic spread across Eorzea. This was a slap in the face to summoners, and summoners only, when it comes to raids. Lets be real here.

Is this to imply that raids (dungeons) will collapse because the summoner can't get thunder up? I think you overvalue the importance of your thunder. Yes you're losing some dps, but guess what! Crap is still gonna die even if you don't get to thunder it.