Summoner got destroyed this patch

[Sylari]

Not to mention the virus nerf, which makes smn even more useless.

The virus nerf hits BLM/WHM with their inferior cross class Virus harder than it does the arcanists.

[Sleigh]

The virus nerf hits BLM/WHM with their inferior cross class Virus harder than it does the arcanists.

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As a BLM, I'm basically going to have to stop using it in 8 man content, as it'd devalue the SMN and SCH's Virus's.

[jisatsu4]

The virus nerf hits BLM/WHM with their inferior cross class Virus harder than it does the arcanists.

Except the only real fight right now is T5 and you only need the STR part of the virus which a BLM/WHM can bring.

[Kuroyasha]

The virus nerf hits BLM/WHM with their inferior cross class Virus harder than it does the arcanists.

Yea I'll probably just leave virus alone now. Oh well.

I'm going to leave Thunder on my hotbar until the day it lights up again

The power of hope xD

[Peptaru]

Just go live dangerously in the middle of mob piles like the cool blms, even with the reduced potency, you can crank out a couple hundred (edit: potency) against even small piles. Spam B2 instead of ruin and mourn the loss of your single target glory. (no more thunder, ED instead of extra fester to fuel B2 spam)

[Kevee]

Just go live dangerously in the middle of mob piles like the cool blms, even with the reduced potency, you can crank out a couple hundred (edit: potency) against even small piles. Spam B2 instead of ruin and mourn the loss of your single target glory. (no more thunder, ED instead of extra fester to fuel B2 spam)

Good SMNs already stood in melee all the time, not just for Miasma II from Contagion.

Also, B2 is a net nerf on AoE up to 5 targets, too. Thunder-tab-spam was stronger/gcd.

[Darkshneider]

I seem to be the only one that likes getting bliz2 on my smn.Losing thnder sucks thats for sure,but bliz2 adds some nice options and some aoe dmg for speedruns after spreading bane

[Kevee]

I seem to be the only one that likes getting bliz2 on my smn.Losing thnder sucks thats for sure,but bliz2 adds some nice options and some aoe dmg for speedruns after spreading bane

Yes, because getting a 20 potency upgrade(over Tri Disaster) is so worth losing ~10% ST DPS, and x% DPs on 2-4 targets.

It adds nothing.

I didnt say in any place that getting bliz2 was worth losing thunder.In fact i said losing thunder sucks.I just mentioned that i liked the bliz2.wow...posters these days need to proofread

When you say "I like B2," it's coming at the cost of Thunder. Your whole post downplayed how much of a loss Thunder was, and thinking B2 added anything.

Keep thinking it dosent add "nothing" its goin to be a great tool for pvp also.and even if you dont play pvp.its alredy something,thus,not nothing.
Keep raging.ill just adapt and have fun at the game ^^

Yes, such a great tool for PvP.
It's not like it's an inferior tri-disaster for that purpose or anything.

Keep on diggin' that hole.

gonna do 1 edit.cause someone is adding cute edits to their post in reply to mine:
An aoe centralized on yourself bind isnt useful for pvp? think clearly.clear the rage in yor mind..analize it..deeply/In many games such skills are the greatest pvp tools for casters.You think im diggin myself a hole.you first said its nothing,i said something,you were proved wrong on that point.whos diggng themselves a hole.Last post ima gonna do today.keep adding edits

You do know that Tri-Disaster is AoE, and has a longer Binding effect, right?

In those games the player-based area of effect root is typically instant cast, wider in radius, and doesn't 100% break on the first pip of damage. Good luck casting it in PVP when someone is beating on you without Surecast or Swiftcast. Hell, if I was playing melee dps I'd hope you waste them on Blizz 2. It'll make stopping anything actually important you could cast easier.

This. You know all casts will be interrupted, EVERY TIME, from any direct damage, right?

[Darkshneider]

Yes, because getting a 20 potency upgrade(over Tri Disaster) is so worth losing ~10% ST DPS, and x% DPs on 2-4 targets.

It adds nothing.

I didnt say in any place that getting bliz2 was worth losing thunder.In fact i said losing thunder sucks.I just mentioned that i liked the bliz2.wow...posters these days need to proofread

[PriyaJugulataris]

I didnt say in any place that getting bliz2 was worth losing thunder.In fact i said losing thunder sucks.I just mentioned that i liked the bliz2.wow...posters these days need to proofread

The fact remains it really doesn't add anything.