worst lore in history of mmo-rpg's

[Raagnar]

you are seeing ffxi with rose tinted glasses. the story telling in ffxi rank 1-6, and rize of the zilart was absolutely terrible. half of the ranks was fetch quest then it merged into the same for all nation, gets semi interesting with magicite mission, ends abruptly. continued in rise of the zilart but if you condense the story its extremely short and direct, those guys are bad, go get these shards, find sky and beat them.

CoP was decent, ToAU had nothing to do with anything already established, WoTG was finally starting to have some FF style cs of epic proportions. FFXIV has a much deeper world set out before in terms of presentation and story telling with a classic FF feel. But that's just my opinion..

[Dotsusama]

I have learned more about the world and the people of Eorzea through side quests in this game than I ever discovered through the story missions up through Aht Urhgan in XI (which is when I quit).

Are we... reading the same content?

[Peptaru]

I feel very far from immersed in the lore of eorzea. The game is visually more appealing and runs (sometimes) more smoothly... that's about it from my chair. I will give that the city missions in XI could be crappy when taken in the context of a single mission, but all of the story together felt great. Half the time I find myself not giving a crap about the events in XIV because they do not draw me in at all. And do you really wanna touch on fetch quests in XI vs. XIV? That's a big can of worms for supporters of XIV.

Side note: its hard to take anyone who says things like "all nostalgic" or "rose tinted glasses" seriously because that's the same dismissive BS post that everyone makes, even when its unfounded.

[Raagnar]

Perhaps you should resub and see what you remember so fondly because I used to say the same thing. FFXI has an amazing story that felt like I accomplished something, I played for 8 years and loved it. A few months ago I resubbed and made a new character, using my old gil I funded my gear and lvled(which is extremely easy now) to 85 and flew through the main story and some expansions. It is not even close to how epic I remembered.

Im not saying ffxiv doesn't have fetch quests, every rpg in history has them but maybe you forget getting lizard eggs for the president of bastok after a few dozen hours of gameplay. Where in the same time frame for ffxiv you are well into a story that continues to flow instead of stopping you because the content is extremely difficult and there was no form of duty finder. Most old school players didn't even finish the expansion storylines.

You know how hard it was to find people who were willing to finish RoZ after doing divine might for the reward? when ToAU was out alexander was extremely hard and the game requires class stacking for most fights. the end reward was not worth it so most didn't bother on my server.

[Kyan]

For me, I guess I really enjoy the story and lore in FFXIV. It was one of my favourite aspects of XI, and many other final fantasies. That and the characters.

Contributing to these lore forums, discovering information about the wider world of Hydaelyn, and creating a character which adheres to the racial lore and story, I am excited to see where the rest of the story will go, what other information we will find out, and how this will impact my knowledge of the world.

I guess it is all a matter of perspective, taste and difference. I'm sorry it is not as enjoyable for you, but I am sure if given time, maybe it will get better when there is more content?

[Peptaru]

There is a reason I am playing XIV and not XI. XI is not the same game it used to be. They removed most (all?) level caps, made it easy to get to max level, easy to get gear, made relics useless. . . they made it like FFXIV, no? While it may not feel as epic, it doesn't change the difference between the stories.

I am sorry that people had trouble finding help, but again, that is not the fault of the story. It is the fault of the community. I'm also fairly sure we're just talking lore here. I played from NA release to the end of WotG and came back during abyssea for a good while.

[Raagnar]

Right... this is about lore, not about why you don't play it or don't like it anymore. If you cant be bothered to play it then look up the story on youtube, Im saying the storytelling and cs in ffxi are very bland until WoTG. Its confusing at times and doesn't flow properly like other ff titles. You remember it being amazing but its far from it in terms of story telling. I could care less why you don't play anymore or which has the "better lore" but ffxiv presents itself way better then ffxi.

[Peptaru]

You're missing your own point when you say it is about lore. For the record the "flow speed" let's call it, of lore is not lore. I fail to see how the story was at all confusing, and you referenced playing it in its current state before I did.... so how's that on me?

I still say, like the OP, that FFXI was a much deeper story which I couldn't wait to see more of. FFXIV is not on the same tier as many other FF titles in this aspect. Is it better than most other Rpg titles? Yep! Is it better than some of the same franchise? Definitely not. I got more enjoyment out of the 1.0 ending story than I have from most of the story in 2.0.

[Drakent]

Remember i am not talking about the game play or how the story was accomplish, i am talking purely about the story it self, dialog and all and in ffxiv there isnt much interest on either of the story or dialog.

very small recap on ffxi, Heroes fight the demon king , the demon king comes back years later and when you confront him you find out at the end that he is not the same demon king that the heroes had defeated but actually 1 of the heroes turn into the demon king but wait there more his the best friend of the DK, omg!!!!!! and there's more!!!! the 2 ppl who help you in your quest to defeat the demon king are a forgotten race who use you to kill the demon king b/c his very existent was stopping them from doing there evil plans wow never saw that coming

[SDaemon]

Remember i am not talking about the game play or how the story was accomplish, i am talking purely about the story it self, dialog and all and in ffxiv there isnt much interest on either of the story or dialog.

very small recap on ffxi, Heroes fight the demon king , the demon king comes back years later and when you confront him you find out at the end that he is not the same demon king that the heroes had defeated but actually 1 of the heroes turn into the demon king but wait there more his the best friend of the DK, omg!!!!!! and there's more!!!! the 2 ppl who help you in your quest to defeat the demon king are a forgotten race who use you to kill the demon king b/c his very existent was stopping them from doing there evil plans wow never saw that
coming

here so far on ffxiv,

a country call them self the empire when to war against then entire world ( star wars any 1) they where winning the fight so a old guy cast a spell that teleported every 1 out to save the good ppl , now here where the story starts going down hill, what
in hell happen to bahamut? he wasn't defeated so how is that 5 year later has pass from that great war that the empire was winning and now they starting all over.

here the next part of the story , avatars on this game are evil and they are being awoken by each beastman tribe and all nation are afraid so they want you so stop them and unlike ffxi where the avatars look all bad ass and they had a story behind but on this game they just act like bullies who just need a spanking

You might want to loosen those rose-tinted glasses. It seems they've started to embed themselves into your eye sockets! Quick before its too late! SAVE YOUR EYES!!!