The misconception of Housing prices!

[EdwinLi]

I'm surprised that people thought a Small house for FC Housing would cost less than 500K.

Most of the cheap Housing Prices like Small house price being less than 500K was towards Personal House cost and not FC Housing price.

Still the price seem outrageous for most servers for FC Housing.

[cotti]

That assumes an optimal case of everyone being active and willing to donate. Just imagine a FC with 500 active people in this period which is still the game's infancy...

Let's go to an easier example. Take a FC with 50 people. For your price projection, would be a million from each, right?

Now, consider that many people just do not have time to raise money. They get by with their instance runs for Myth capping, and eventually selling phylomats and whatnot. Now, add that to people that just aren't interested in housing, and just ignore donation requests. And add the fact that many people can work on raising funds, but could only reach a fraction of a million even so. One or other person can reach more than a million, but it's much less than the needed to compensate for all other cases.

[jomoru]

SE wants and expected free companies to be huge. That's why they allow over 500+ members, while linkshells were meant to be for our smaller social groups, close friends, coil statics, etc.

If 500 members donated only 100k each, that's 50mil right there, while some of the richer players could donate more if they wanted. Housing doesn't seem so bad if this was the case.

I am just playing devil's advocate here, though, as my own FC has only 45members(including alts/mules). I'm just trying to apply some kind of logic to the housing prices, and looking at it this way, it seems to make a little more sense!

The logic is some people broke the system with a hack afew months back and SE can't properly bleed it out without effecting other people.

[Libby9]

The logic is some people broke the system with a hack afew months back and SE can't properly bleed it out without effecting other people.

It's silly because even the super rich people I know, aren't going to be dumping all of their gil into this. So the crazy prices aren't going to solve anything at the end of the day. That's why I came up with my original post(just a theory), but I'm pretty sure SE could see that 500member FC's don't even exist. So no matter how you look at it, SE is going about it the wrong way :\

[Abriael]

SE wants and expected free companies to be huge. That's why they allow over 500+ members, while linkshells were meant to be for our smaller social groups, close friends, coil statics, etc.

If 500 members donated only 100k each, that's 50mil right there, while some of the richer players could donate more if they wanted. Housing doesn't seem so bad if this was the case.

I am just playing devil's advocate here, though, as my own FC has only 45members(including alts/mules). I'm just trying to apply some kind of logic to the housing prices, and looking at it this way, it seems to make a little more sense!

There's no misconception. If they expect FCs to be huge, then it's a design flaw, because a whole lot of people don't *like* being in a large guild.

[jomoru]

It's silly because even the super rich people I know, aren't going to be dumping all of their gil into this. So the crazy prices aren't going to solve anything at the end of the day. That's why I came up with my original post(just a theory), but I'm pretty sure SE could see that 500member FC's don't even exist. So no matter how you look at it, SE is going about it the wrong way :\

I can only think of one FC that close on Balmung

[Yolteotl]

There also is no misconception on the price, paying 25 million gil for a small house or 500+ million (just because your account is on a server that they deemed bleed-worthy) for a large house, regardless of if your FC is 'HUGE' or not; u cant throw away that much gil and feel like the house was worth it... they are retarded for tooting their horns about how great housing is for a majority of all their live letters then putting the content in-game where a vast majority of the players will not be able to access it.

The ridiculous pricing scheme of the housing and the ignorant 1-drop a week limitation on the Crystal Tower (forcing ppl to continue mindlessly grinding philo to utilize multiple jobs for content) had me really close to quitting this game. I leveled and played every class in 1.0 because they are fun in their own way; now i can't use barely any of them for anything because of the endless philo farming and the Crystal Tower isn't going to alleviate any of that. I've been looking forward to housing because they have been hyping it up for months, and now it's a pathetic joke and only a moronic FC Leader would even suggest their members throw that much gil away to access it.

[Libby9]

With so few houses being bought, furniture market will probably be worthless now too

[Estellios]

Most FCs I have seen are between 15-50 people. They have the data on this and would be able to accommodate the players. I doubt many players would want to join a huge organization just for the "privilege" of being able to grind out money and be able to hang out in a house with several hundred other people in a not-idiotic timeframe.

Funny enough, my FC was more than willing to dump all our money into this as we were looking forward to it a lot but we are nowhere near even being able to afford the cheapest and what seems like a tiny house.

They did this the wrong way IMO, instead of figuring out how much gil was in circulation on the total server and how they could best remove it from the economy, where unbelievably rich players are likely to skew the balance, they should have looked at average player gil and figured out what would be a reasonable price range for people to afford.

[Lafiele]

I think the prices are extremely acceptable. Being from tonberry myself, a small house worth about 9 mil, can be easily afforded to you over time. (what did you expect? your group of 40 being in a massive 125 mil big housing?)

I think most of this comes down to entitlement of players again. Players who want things that are just obtainable to them but somehow not obtainable for others, if it isn't, then the price is absurd.

I don't know how old you are most of the players here, but think about buying a real house. How much time did you spend on your last (or ongoing current) mortgage?