Just Another 3rd party bot BUT 1000 TIMES WORSE

[Iron]

it was lag or something, you guys didnt have claim it seems.

Yea you don't have claim.

[Viridiana]

Well, they had claim. . . on a different mob.

[Petdo]

STF = shut the f**k you whiner

[twinkles]

Missing the point that the OP posted/took this vid knew they had claim on another mob (Bardi), imo that's pretty shady. Took me about 10 seconds of watching this vid to know it wasn't legit. Reported for being a shady troll...

[Eldaena]

1) Even though Bardi was engaged, it was still extremely odd that each time they attempted to fight a mob near the bot, the bot suddenly sprung into action to fight what they had been targetting. I would guess what actually happened is the bot's hp got low, it stopped combat but the mob was still active (keeping it's hp from going back up) which seems to be the case, then when it's hp was high enough it went back to the fight.

2) There isn't any latency issue between the player and the bot that is any different than what he has with his party. The bot's movements are uncharacteristic of a player, which you can see the differences easily with the party members in comparison to it. This bot and others do seem to have a distance of engagement that is much longer than players do.

3) The ladybug did appear to be in some strange in-between zone of combat and non combat. It looked like it was stuck to the bot, in active mode, but not fighting and not engaged.


It makes me sort of sad how so many people say they do not care about botting. It just makes you look like you're rushing to their defense. If you really didn't care you wouldn't say anything about it at all or try to defend it. The truth probably is either you or someone you know bots and you would rather dilute yourself into thinking it doesn't matter, it's not a big deal, and it doesn't effect you or other players because you want to stay in a perpetual state of denial about it all and hide behind the facade that it is all just a game. When in reality, the people behind the players are real. We have real goals and real desire for enjoyment and a fair gaming environment. No, things can't be perfect. But embracing cheating even in a fantasy world only encourages it in the real one. I realize it's a game, but does that mean just throw out all morals at the door?

In the real world, whether you are aware of it or not, corruption and ill intent effect you. Don't be naive and think it won't effect you in a game. A fantasy world, where of all places, people should be able to enjoy themselves and be pulled away from the negativity of the real world...and yet so many people rush to the defense of poor morality in order to cheat their way ahead.

People are so self-defeating.

[twinkles]

I am not coming to the defense of botters. I am merely pointing out the fact that regardless of bot or not bot, the OP is painting a picture that simply isn't true and no one else seemed bothered by the deception. Do i hate bots..yes, do i think the example in the vid is a bot..most likely, do i think the OP is shady..yes.

[Vahzl]

What I find amusing is how outraged and up your own bum you are about this kind of thing. No one cares, and for you to be THIS bored with the game that you have now become a little one man renegade, Robin Hood style, is kind of sad.

Also, being someone who has worked in a similar role as the STF, you honestly have no idea how it works, and that if you knew the amount of work behind this kind of thing, you would very quickly backpeddle on your aggressive attitude towards the team. I can tell you now that reporting 1 bot, and standing there waiting for it to disconnect won't happen. Bots are monitored and profiled, often for weeks at a time, to allow the company to cut the issue at source. You kill one, 2 more take their place in seconds. You pull up the roots, no more return.

God I really hate white knights.

[Besbeset]

Is there any info from SE regarding when/how/which measures are they going to take against this kind of behavior?

Maybe I missed it, but as far as I know there isn't.

Does SE cares about this at this moment? Do SE knows that there could be plenty of bot/players with already more than 3 or 4 crafts to level 50 because of this?

I don't care too much about fighting classes, those are fairly "easy" to level, but the crafters could really broke up the economy if this ball starts to get bigger...

The thing that really scares me, is the SE "indifference" about this at least at the moment. I know that Comm. Rep. already said plenty of times that they read through all the posts and past that info to devs. and so and so...

But I really think this is somehow important to the whole community and the proper future of the game, and it really deserves at least a quick reply letting us know that they are "looking into it"....

[Eldaena]

What I find amusing is how outraged and up your own bum you are about this kind of thing. No one cares, and for you to be THIS bored with the game that you have now become a little one man renegade, Robin Hood style, is kind of sad.

Also, being someone who has worked in a similar role as the STF, you honestly have no idea how it works, and that if you knew the amount of work behind this kind of thing, you would very quickly backpeddle on your aggressive attitude towards the team. I can tell you now that reporting 1 bot, and standing there waiting for it to disconnect won't happen. Bots are monitored and profiled, often for weeks at a time, to allow the company to cut the issue at source. You kill one, 2 more take their place in seconds. You pull up the roots, no more return.

God I really hate white knights.

How exactly can you say no one cares? There are several threads on this forum about this very topic. And I never thought it was easy to deal with the botters in an efficient manner, but you know some sort of action would be nice. People that have been reporting bots for months are still seeing those same bots.

I hear the argument that getting rid of bots will kill the population and possible income for the game. I would guess that a majority of these bots would probably drop if the game became pay to play. Also, if they continue to have these bots alter and monopolize this game in the future, it will only push legitimate players away from wanting to play it.

Wanting to address the rmt/botting situation in a manner that does alter gameplay unnecessarily is something that SE should be realistically considering at least before a cap raise. It is a problem. It does effect you if you play this game. If it takes white knights to make a big deal out of it just so someone can see that it matters to some of us not in denial about botters effects on this game, then so be it.

[Eldaena]

I am not coming to the defense of botters. I am merely pointing out the fact that regardless of bot or not bot, the OP is painting a picture that simply isn't true and no one else seemed bothered by the deception. Do i hate bots..yes, do i think the example in the vid is a bot..most likely, do i think the OP is shady..yes.

I wasn't accusing you of anything. I agree the OP's party's behavior was odd. That doesn't mean it's not disheartening to see so many other players coming to the defense of these botters. They can say they are not defending them, but saying "I don't care" is the same as saying "Bot away" if they are actually making it a point to let others know they 'don't care.' If they truly didn't care they probably would not even be looking in this thread.