Goobue mount

[charlemagne]

New people having a goobbue doesn't stop me having my 1.0 goobbue. It's a vanity item and denying it to new people wouldn't give me any particular pleasure so I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed one. If it were actual gear that people had to work for that was being given away like smarties then I'd have a problem with it but with this, no.
I was a little disappointed that the darklight that was such a pain to beat the rng for which meant we had to put in a huge amount of work for in 1.0 became so easy to get but for something we just had to speak to an npc to get like the goobbue I have no problem with it being made available to new players.

[Kiayin]

Since someone asked: I'd be more than happy to let anyone who didn't buy the collector edition get a coeurl [if they discontinued the collector's edition]. I do not see the big deal. If I had a friend who really wanted a coeurl and couldn't get it, I would feel bad for him. GW2 tried it and people are complaining about it everywhere. ^^;

[Atkasha]

I think the 'big deal' is not over the fact that people are getting the same mount...it is the fact how SE keeps lying. It is just lie after lie...it is getting old lol.

A few of the detractors of the new Gobbue mount have been crying foul concerning lying, lack of integrity or whatever but pray tell, what exactly did they lie about in this situation? The passage provided in this very thread concerning the first Gobbue mount (which is, get this, still exclusive to those who were around to claim it in the window that it was available) never stated that there would never be another Gobbue mount, just that the Gobbue mount (in reference to the only one available at the time) would not be available again.

From what we can see, SE has not gone back on this. As a non-legacy player, I do not all of a sudden have access to your special snowflake Gobbue in addition to the one we are getting, so what is with the almost collective lack of reading comprehension? Hell, if you guys are really that concerned you can take solace in the fact that you now have TWO Gobbues, something we still would not have!

I do not necessary disagree with the other issues you brought up concerning statements SE has made but this is definitely one of the more esoteric complaints I have seen.

[ShinigamiKayla]

I think the 'big deal' is not over the fact that people are getting the same mount...it is the fact how SE keeps lying. It is just lie after lie...it is getting old lol. Imagine if they put..."1.0 players can obtain this goobue mount! But in 2.1 you can get one with flowers instead of a rug" no one would really make much of an effort to get it. I know people who subbed just to get the mount. >.>

First they lie about changing eye color in barber shop, then they lie about the house price (It is not 1-4 lv50 players combining gil, really..) , then this..and so much more. Just makes me feel like an idiot to keep playing a game where the company keeps lying. T_T They are making it very difficult to respect them anymore...sigh, oh SE what have you become heh.

wow babydoll you of all people hah... well I guess I can always be wrong about judging people... I'm getting sick of saying they are both different mounts and everyone needs to be slapped with a reality check... they are not lieing when its a damned different mount... hell LOOK AT OUR LEGACY chocbos its like... why the hell else does everyone else get a chocobo... seriously... only us legacy members should have chocobos... -rolls eyes- ~_~

[ArkhamNative]

I'm sad a little, but it's not from a lack of privilege. (I may even use my goobbue mount more, once they're available to all, fwiw.) Just some sadness that Yoshi-P loses a little more of his integrity.

If people are OK with "the goobbue mount can only be obtained before the release of FINAL FANTASY XIV Version 2.0" (official statement) meaning "Oh, we meant just that particular goobbue mount. We'll actually make nearly identical goobbue mounts available to everyone", then they have no justification to be upset over any other hair-splitting and weaseling by SE like exorbitant housing pricing, or future re-colors of "exclusive" pre-order and collector's edition perks made available to all.

[Sylve]

I'm sad a little, but it's not from a lack of privilege. (I may even use my goobbue mount more, once they're available to all, fwiw.) Just some sadness that Yoshi-P loses a little more of his integrity.

If people are OK with "the goobbue mount can only be obtained before the release of FINAL FANTASY XIV Version 2.0" (official statement) meaning "Oh, we meant just that particular goobbue mount. We'll actually make nearly identical goobbue mounts available to everyone", then they have no justification to be upset over any other hair-splitting and weaseling by SE like exorbitant housing pricing, or future re-colors of "exclusive" pre-order and collector's edition perks made available to all.

there was only ONE Goobbue Mount in existence, of course it would be stated

The Goobbue Mount

Because it was the only one that existed at the time

They never said that future Goobbue mounts would never exist, they specifically stated that THAT Goobbue mount will never be available to non-Legacy players.
And until i see a non-Legacy player with the Goobbue you were given in 1.0, SE hasn't broken any bloody promises.

[ArkhamNative]

They never said that future Goobbue mounts would never exist, they specifically stated that THAT Goobbue mount will never be available to non-Legacy players.
And until i see a non-Legacy player with the Goobbue you were given in 1.0, SE hasn't broken any bloody promises.

Funny, I don't see "this" or "that" in the quote. If anything, they specifically were vague, rather than specifically stating this wouldn't be the only one. (And to be precise, the goobbue mount was only for v1 characters that completed the Lv30 quest during that time. Not all Legacy players qualified.)

I suppose your point is that marketers and companies weasel and split hairs like you describe all the time, and it should be expected. Which is why I say that nobody should be surprised to see coeurl mounts and cait sith minions (with perhaps a different bow color) in the future, despite being touted as exclusive perks for pre-orders and CEs.

My point is that during the v1 days, the vibe was that Yoshi-P would always be honest with players, even if it meant admitting mistakes and apologizing. What's sad to see is that his redefining of his previous statements is increasing. At this point I wouldn't be surprised to see the End of Era content reprised as "flashback" content, available and playable in ARR.

[Dark-Saviour]

[QUOTE=ArkhamNative;1665848]then they have no justification to be upset over any other hair-splitting and weaseling by SE like exorbitant housing pricing,

This one isn't exactly hair-splitting, but even if it were, it wouldn't simply be an issue of them going back on their word that's the problem. That is a case of something simply being a genuine PitA that ends up being detrimental to everyone.

or future re-colors of "exclusive" pre-order and collector's edition perks made available to all.

That would be lame... Since they could just make the unaltered items available to everyone.
Time-limited content, out-of-game exclusives, etc. need to completely and utterly die.

[Viirin]

Just some sadness that Yoshi-P loses a little more of his integrity.

I get the sense that a lot of players think that Yoshi-P and SE made some sort of solemn blood oath that they would never ever allow anyone to obtain anything at all like this ever again. It was just a limited time reward, and what they said about it is still true, you could only get that exact mount before 2.0. It's not at all splitting hairs to say they never committed to not introducing a different goobue mount, they definitely did not. I don't think they ever really even COMMITTED to never allowing someone to get that one again, it was just noted that it could only be obtained then because they had no plans to introduce it again at the time and wanted players to make sure they got it if they wanted it.

Maybe I'm wrong and there was some sort of in-game blood ritual where Yoshi-P pledged upon his soul that he would never again allow for any other sort of goobue mount... but I doubt it.

[Amused]

If they're going to do things like this I say just do away with anything and everything that was and is exclusive. As I said earlier in the topic, there are things that even as a legacy player I missed out on from 1.0. I've never complained about not having them but would love another chance to obtain said things in order to sate my inner completionist.