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  1. #861
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    OldGeezer's Avatar
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    Kallen Statdfeld
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmnesiaHaze View Post
    but at the end were all paying the same subscription costs , so we should have more equal chances on getting a house , its not about not having saved enough before patch and wanting it immediately , but not being able to save enough even in future at all
    So? It's an open market. Just because I pay a subscription doesn't mean I'm entitled to FC housing. The individual market is 6 months away and Yoshi said it will be much cheaper. With increased supply prices will come down, it just a matter of when. I can wait.
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  2. #862
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    Dawn Charis
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    this EFFING sucks
    Three times the amount a player earns leveling 1-50?

    Who earned 8~ Mil by leveling 1-50 3x? Tell me who. Anyone?

    Yeah didn't think so! Liars.
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  3. #863
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    JaydeDancer's Avatar
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    Jayde Ravynwing
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    You are wonderful Mr. Yoshida! I truly appreciate the effort that you go to to keep us informed and I want to apologize for any of my fellow players who were less than polite in their objections. :-( You have done everything you can for us, and I personally, think that you deserve the utmost amount of respect. Thank you so much!
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  4. #864
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    SpayedNeko's Avatar
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    Wendy Marvell
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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnCharis View Post
    this EFFING sucks
    Three times the amount a player earns leveling 1-50?

    Who earned 8~ Mil by leveling 1-50 3x? Tell me who. Anyone?

    Yeah didn't think so! Liars.
    You're confusing Free Company Housing with player housing. When Yoshi-P said you could afford a house with the gil made from leveling a couple classes, he was talking about the cost of player housing. I dont know why people would think a single person levelling their alt classes would be able to afford Free company housing, which is meant to be a long term goal for ENTIRE Free companies.
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  5. #865
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    Aeriyn Ashley
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    Yoshida, your reasoning and logic is, as usual, very strange.

    If you wanted to prevent individual people with large amounts of Atomos exploit gil from buying up everything... why didn't you roll that back in 1.0? Why don't you limit the number of plots a company can buy to one? Why don't you do any of the things that would be far easier and punish far fewer people?

    Why? Because this isn't about gil. This isn't about people trolling the community. No, this is about your crap-tastic server farm and how it cannot handle everyone and their mother buying a house.

    Why don't you just be honest, delay the housing for a few months until you can get the servers up to speed and then release it in a smaller patch?
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  6. #866
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    Smashington's Avatar
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    Gnu Who
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    Hyperion
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    Why don't we purchase FC housing with FC credits?

    Then houses are actually based on FC accomplishments. At least offer some component of the purchasing to be based on FC achievements. This prevents a single player from purchasing all the houses, does it not?

    It doesn't seem like it's too late to offer discount tickets to the housing prices that can be purchased with FC credits.
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  7. #867
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGeezer View Post
    So? It's an open market. Just because I pay a subscription doesn't mean I'm entitled to FC housing. The individual market is 6 months away and Yoshi said it will be much cheaper. With increased supply prices will come down, it just a matter of when. I can wait.
    good that you arent in charge of the game , but if SE keeps thinking the same that im not entitled to get a chance for all game features in a subscription based model game, i may find myself paying for other services sooner than the 6 months you mention , just saying ... theres one major MMORPG coming 2014 we all know which im talking about , its not about a stupid house but the whole principle of it
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  8. #868
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    Welsper59's Avatar
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    Eros Maxima
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SpayedNeko View Post
    You're confusing Free Company Housing with player housing. When Yoshi-P said you could afford a house with the gil made from leveling a couple classes, he was talking about the cost of player housing. I dont know why people would think a single person levelling their alt classes would be able to afford Free company housing, which is meant to be a long term goal for ENTIRE Free companies.
    ^^ Many of which consist of dozens (or hundreds) of players. It's not very unreasonable of a price when you look at it from a group stance. Unfortunately, most people don't look at it from that angle... only concerned about what ONE person can afford (themselves).

    For the small FC's, definitely more of a problem though. Single digit active players can't really expect to get an L property right off the bat... maybe once the price has dropped a lot, but that'd be a bit much. But then comes to mind... does that single-digit FC really need the L house? People, again, are forgetting what it is that actually suits their needs, and instead only aim for "the best". The greater your goals are, the more time and effort needs to be spent. With the eventual price drops, it just becomes that much more rewarding to be patient. Player housing is intended to be a long-term goal, not something to obtain immediately.
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  9. #869
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    Tryst Wildkey
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    Durandal
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    Weaver Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    snip snippety snip
    Oh, look, another person on a server with lower pricing saying that the prices are fine.

    Stop, just freaking stop.

    We planned for housing, we were advertised housing, we saved since beta 4 for housing and because there are greedy people hoarding gil on the legacy servers, we don't get housing.

    What if you had to grind out useless, boring crap for 3 months before you could even access CT or Coil? What if, players on other servers were able to get in to CT and Coil within a few weeks, or immediately; but you, because of the server you're on and other players behavior, were prevented from even beginning to access the content for 3, 6, 9 months or longer?

    If you don't think that would be fine then go away and stop telling those of us that would have to spend 40 million on a tiny crappy plot of land that the prices are fine.
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    Everyone thought paid retainers and fantasia would be the end of it.
    You were warned.
    Cash shop in, TrystWildkey out.

  10. #870
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    OldGeezer's Avatar
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    Kallen Statdfeld
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmnesiaHaze View Post
    good that you arent in charge of the game , but if SE keeps thinking the same that im not entitled to get a chance for all game features in a subscription based model game, i may find myself paying for other services sooner than the 6 months you mention , just saying ... theres one major MMORPG coming 2014 we all know which im talking about , its not about a stupid house but the whole principle of it
    Oh you do have a chance concurrent with all the other 100+ member FCs out there. It's just not a big one, hence the need for high prices and depreciating lottery so your FC has a shot down the road after the bigger FCs get theirs.
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