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    DarkDedede's Avatar
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    Red Cork
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taekrys View Post
    "Why did SE make so hard to strip ignorants from their money?"
    Ah the good old days. Fun times.

    In all seriousness, we need more consumable type things for sellers(me) to "strip" people of their money. Useful food, useful potions, vanity items, pvp armor that is actually convertable, materia that isn't completely useless. Just to name a few things. Most things on the market board are either useless or can be completely ignored.

    The players need to feel empowered. Right now, they seem like some combination of confused, bored and frustrated. From what I understand of game design, that's never a good thing, and I'm sure most aren't going to wait around 3 months for the possibility of a fix.
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    Mysidia Baron
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhamNative View Post
    The big change is that people are more aware of the value of gil.
    Except now you're seeing that the value of gil that they just realized requires everyone to hold on to it as much as possible. This is the exact same behavior seen in real world economics during recessions and depressions. People are holding on to every cent they can, produced goods are plummeting in value to entice buyers, and the alternative source of income (here quests and such) has become so laughably small that it's becoming difficult for people to gather the required gil.

    If this were the real world, you'd see more people "laid off" resulting in a massive rebounding of inflated prices causing goods to be unsellable. Thankfully, FFXIV has unlimited resources based on simply getting the resources and crafting. That's causing the flooding of the market of goods that just keep devaluing as fewer people buy what more people produce.

    Simply put, in one quick move, Yoshi-P made people realize that gil is valuable AND that they need to hoard it in such large values that it's actually crashing the market in a Great Depression scale as most people withdraw their money from the market causing the items to devalue very quickly in hopes of moving ANY money.

    People are aware of the value of gil, so they're not going to let go of it making the markets oversaturate and devaluate.
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    Last edited by cainejw; 12-30-2013 at 01:10 AM.

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    Quesse Mithril
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    Quote Originally Posted by cainejw View Post
    Simply put, in one quick move, Yoshi-P made people realize that gil is valuable AND that they need to hoard it in such large values that it's actually crashing the market in a Great Depression scale as most people withdraw their money from the market causing the items to devalue very quickly in hopes of moving ANY money.

    People are aware of the value of gil, so they're not going to let go of it making the markets oversaturate and devaluate.
    This is exactly what I'm doing. I'm not spending a penny in hopes Yoshi will come to his senses and REALLY fix the housing market. He has completely lost it on this one. I have no idea what he was thinking. What a train-wreck.
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    Heat Daour
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    Ragnarok
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    What worries me more is the individual housing system.

    First of all I don’t trust them anymore, what they say today 90% of the time will change after a month, like what happened when they said 2-3 people leveling 3 classes to 50 could buy a house.
    So will they do the same to individual houses? Who knows?

    Second thing, the sizes of the houses, the small FC house could not fit 3 persons with 1 table in it, how could it fir 20 players?

    The sizes right now should be for individual players and the FC houses should be 10 times bigger than what they are now.
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    Taazu Vert
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Daily Bump of Justice. Lower the prices SE. Killing the economy.
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    Pyrinna Dox
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    Last day of year and no FC House. Hopefully this will change 2014.

    Happy New Year Everyone!
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    Taazu Vert
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    Daily Bump of Justice.
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    M'ete'leskum B'leskum
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    And - the thread dies - without single relevant asnwer from Yoshi or devs - way to treat the community and your customers SE!
    (4)

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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by HEC View Post
    And - the thread dies - without single relevant asnwer from Yoshi or devs - way to treat the community and your customers SE!
    Except for this and this and a little bit of this.

    But that isn't the "free, zero effort houses for everyone" answer you wanted, is it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    You forgot this
    Right, good catch.
    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    You know good and damn well that is not what people asked for. Stop making false arguments. It's really sad to see a Lalafell lying through her teeth on such a frequent basis.
    Except I'm not lying.
    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Heres a far better way to fix housing... Just dont make it cost gil. Make it cost FC points.
    ...which would essentially allow nearly everyone to get their land on day 1 without having to do anything but click the buy button.

    And then the housing servers crash and people cry.

    I don't lie. Ever. And shame on you for accusing me of doing so.
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    Last edited by Eekiki; 01-04-2014 at 04:36 AM.

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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Except for this and this and a little bit of this.

    But that isn't the "free, zero effort houses for everyone" answer you wanted, is it?
    You forgot this
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