An Open Letter to Yoshida-san: Please Slice One Zero Off the Housing Prices

[Sunarie]

There is another issue going on for the jP side, at least for this one FC that bought a company house. After FC members donated money to the company they bought the house then FC leader started kicking them since they don't need them anymore. Hope this doesn't become a regular for some FC's out there... it's messed up.

That situation sucks. I was part of a guild on WoW, we did end game raiding, saved up crafting mats in the guild bank for some of the higher end crafting pieces. Guild I was a part of for 2 years, guild leader suddenly ninja'd the guild bank and left. People can spout the whole "you shouldn't donate a lot of money unless you trust the leader" thing all they want, but when it comes down to it.. internet is internet, and people will be jerks. People that seemed fine from day one can suddenly show a completely different face and bail on you. There is no way to know if someone is going to do that to you or not.

[silentwindfr]

we can talk of this all the day, the sole real trouble is the discrimation, we pay all our subscription for Final Fantasy 14: ARR, and actually, some play a different version of the same game of us... instead to make the same feature for everyone... they have try to adapt it for a small portion of the playerbase and create a system that clearly not even for everyone...

this price can be affordable for some... but with the actual generation of gil... it's clearly impossible for new player or poor legacy player to afford a house before age. this system, will never solve the trouble of gil into the game... only a hard stance by a wide wipe of the too much gil can do it.

but let be honest when it was done on the new player server because of the rmt... people have scream to injustice...
now, we have difference for different player base, based on the server you are. is that normal in 2013 soon 2014 to see this in a mmorpg with subscription? no.
do the solution to make the new player and poor legacy player wait 3 month for get a price, that will still stay too high, the right one? no!

why this playerbase must wait for get acces to the same feature than the new player server? don't we pay our subscription like the other player? do it's normal to bashed player from legacy server with restriction, simply because they haven't seen come the trouble of gils when they have decide to simply reduce to 10%, instead to give an hard cap!

them action so far are annoying and tiring, because i haven't the feeling i'm welcomed to that game... we can't get the same feature than the new player... do that means the new player database is more important than the one on the legacy server?
why not stop this idiocy and simply treat every player like part of the same playerbase!

for information, make money from Auction house on the legacy server is far harder than on new player, why? because we have more offer than demand, more crafter, more gatherer... then everything is at low cost. then, the gil generation is far lower than on new player server.


i will finish with this: we must get the same game for everyone! no more new player/legacy difference in the restriction.

i already see people coming saying, yeah, but you have more item, more gil (not everyone on the legacy server is rich... i must have something like 800.000 gils so far) for me ARR is like an expansion that simply have change all the game, is not a new game, it's still final fantasy 14. why the fact to have played to the game before ARR must be punish? do you want to get the same treatment when the expansion will come out? i doubt it.

[ASnogarD]

Discrimination ? Sorry to be so harsh , but that is a load of rubbish.

New player on a Legacy server ? That is not SE's fault, if they adjust so a new player can afford the housing easily then all the older players will have NOTHING to work to as far as the housing system is concerned, and considering there are far more none legacy server available its unfair to the older players just to accommodate the new players.
There are players that relish a challenge, and do not expect everything handed out on a plate with little to no effort.
The cost of a house what seems a lot to a none legacy server is pittance to those on a legacy server.
New players should NOT join a legacy server unless they have friends on that server, and in that case its reasonable to assume the friends are in a FC that can afford or have means to work to the price of that server.

[Misaki]

daily bump of justice

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[Cubester]

People keep talking about a challenge. What challenge? Collecting gil is not a challenge, it's merely a massive time sink that is in place because SE can't make proper assessments when it comes to their server infrastructure.
If I want a challenge I'll go play a hard PvE dungeon, or do some PvP. Housing, which is considered casual content by most if not all games, should not be challenging to attain. At least not for an entry level house.

[ArkhamNative]

Rare-X invited the public into their medium house. Very nice, both the house and the welcoming gesture. I stepped off (measured) the interior and it was indeed less than the exterior boundary. I guess houses look bigger on the inside. (Inside: 13x20 steps, empty lot construction boundary: 18x23 steps.)

Obviously it's at least 3x larger than a small house due to having 3 larger floors, but the stairwells do take up some space so maybe it's only 4-5 times as large as a small. The pricing is 3x that of a small, so that seems to be ok. I do wonder if a large is 3x the size of a medium, or if that 3x price is justified by future features that only large houses can have access to, or maybe due to scarcity. there are 15 per world currently, but apparently it's set at 10% of houses (each zone has 3 large, 7 medium, and 20 small).

[ArkhamNative]

There is another issue going on for the jP side, at least for this one FC that bought a company house. After FC members donated money to the company they bought the house then FC leader started kicking them since they don't need them anymore. Hope this doesn't become a regular for some FC's out there... it's messed up.

We all knew this was going to happen sooner than later. It really is just donating huge sums of money to an individual stranger on the Internet. Whether people are kicked out or want to leave voluntarily, it's quite a mess, both by the ToS and legally. (People can and do sue in the real world over virtual property and implied agreements.). Surely SE saw this coming, too? We should find out by how they handle this situation.

[Sleverin]

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The main point I agree with here is that it does feel like SE has just been focusing on getting a new playerbase so bad that they'd like to shaft the Legacy players. New players won't has as much? Time for a gil reduction! How about we just start handing gil out as a door prize, triple what we used to?! Hey, hell, let's start giving out level IV materia to flood the markets even further to give people a bit more cash! They're trying to balance the gil field by forcing us to pay more while giving the new kids more, for what reason I don't know, since I had no idea that Eorzea was attempting to be some heavily Socialistic utopia.

[J_Kepler]

WHAT THE F**K! 20 mil for a small plot?!
WHAT THE F**********K Yoshi?!

[Taekrys]

I'm also worried they are building themselves an alibi.
I mean, it's obvious that when a feature just released is playable by the 0% of the players on day one (because FC rank) and less than 1% of them after one week, something doesn't add up.
You think that announcing the prices 3 days away from patch it's random? They knew abount the incoming ragewave.
"Hey, patch is out now, too late to fix that beforehand, sorry!"

But what really troubles me, though, is...
When a month will pass, and let's say 10-11 FC in each servers will have a house, will they be able to lower the prices? Consistently?
Or they will say something like "We can't refund money already spent to players which spent them already, so to not be unjust we won't touch them"?

I think the right way for the players to handle the matter, is to stop paying monthly bill to SE till they don't cut A LOT the prices.
When they will lose 10% of player database due to delusion after one month, maybe they will listen.