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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    This community complains about things it really shouldn't be complaining about. The amount of servers in a reboot of a failed game? Seriously? ARR had a successful launch, better install a crapload of servers in hindsight of a problem we have no hindsight of. I've played games that are exponentially worse than this one in every aspect and people find less to cry about.
    ARR had a successful launch?....did you sleep through those 2 weeks of not being able to log in?

    Housing launched 3 months after the initial login server fiasco. They knew the amount of subscribers and server populations giving them the information they need on server usage for housing. This is not hindsight; this is 3 months of data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayura_ View Post
    ARR had a successful launch?....did you sleep through those 2 weeks of not being able to log in?
    There was only one day where I was not able to log in and there was no maintenance, and that was for about 90 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    There was only one day where I was not able to log in and there was no maintenance, and that was for about 90 minutes.
    Oh? You don't remember clicking start, login, over and over and over again? Perhaps you AFK'd the entire two weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayura_ View Post
    ARR had a successful launch?....did you sleep through those 2 weeks of not being able to log in?
    This is exactly what im talking about. An unexpected amount of server stress from player activity = unsuccessful launch? On which planet, can I ask?

    The amount of data you can get from something doesn't create an infinite pool of money or resources (or "hindsight") to adequately deal with an issue. And that's assuming that the current housing problem is even a server issue -- that just sounds like another corporate evil theory from people who like to complain about stuff.

    Whatever the real issue is, you guys just don't know. I haven't even been playing this game for a month and I can tell, it handles alot more server activity than your typical MMO would. I understand that many typical players wouldn't understand that type of thing, but the QQ is still a bit baffling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post

    Whatever the real issue is, you guys just don't know. I haven't even been playing this game for a month and I can tell, it handles alot more server activity than your typical MMO would. I understand that many typical players wouldn't understand that type of thing, but the QQ is still a bit baffling.
    So limiting the number of people in a zone (with no overflow) because Odin used to crash entire servers is handling a lot?

    Instanced housing versus open-world housing that has been around since at least 2000 is handling a lot?

    Not being able to even whisper or see your friends list in an instance is handling a lot?

    Admitting they cannot PHYSICALLY implement more housing instances right now is handling a lot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    This is exactly what im talking about. An unexpected amount of server stress from player activity = unsuccessful launch? On which planet, can I ask?
    Earth, where we expect to be able to play games we pay to play.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    And that's assuming that the current housing problem is even a server issue -- that just sounds like another corporate evil theory from people who like to complain about stuff.

    Whatever the real issue is, you guys just don't know. I haven't even been playing this game for a month and I can tell, it handles alot more server activity than your typical MMO would. I understand that many typical players wouldn't understand that type of thing, but the QQ is still a bit baffling.
    This is incorrect. Yoshida stated that if prices were closer to what they originally said they would be, the wealthy people would buy all the houses (even though each FC can only have 1), and everyone else would have to wait a long time to get one, even if they had the money. The obvious fix would be to add more houses, but he stated that they don't have the server capacity to do that.

    I will repeat.

    Yoshida said that they don't have the server capacity to give everyone a house. The lack of server capacity is not speculative, or based on assumptions. It is a fact.
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    The fact is, I don't care if X-player have 300 milions. So because this guy have 300 milions we "poor" ppl have to pay high price? I repeat, you calculated server economy and shit, but the hell I care about server economy, in my FC probably wont even reach 5 mil (you say enjoy contents, but if we enjoy contents where we get money then?)! Me and some FC friend was gather money for FC housing (pre-update) but, hi, there's no money incoming. Even philo items dropped in prices. Oh by the way SE, is fun to enter in that area full (empty) of that so many housing plots... and not a single house "installed". Good job I say.
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    I just had a simple question for Mr. Yoshida: how can there be a significant amount of players with several million gil on non-legacy servers? Does this mean there is a huge amount of gil in circulation on non-legacy servers? And if that is the case, where did all this gil come from, keeping in mind gil does not drop from mobs
    And I guess those were 3 questions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanadiel007 View Post
    I just had a simple question for Mr. Yoshida: how can there be a significant amount of players with several million gil on non-legacy servers? Does this mean there is a huge amount of gil in circulation on non-legacy servers? And if that is the case, where did all this gil come from, keeping in mind gil does not drop from mobs
    And I guess those were 3 questions...
    I think they are calculating all the RMT bots and traders with all the gil, dont get me wrong they are keeping up well but not everyone wants to spend game time reporting RMT. Its not our job to find them. maybe if they made it more focus to get ride of bots on markets then we might acutually might make something. need a retainer report sub command. but the only people and i will say again are FC's such as Excel that could ever afford these prices. Selling Titan Runs for 200k.
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    Sunarie Rymshek
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeathWish View Post
    I think they are calculating all the RMT bots and traders with all the gil, dont get me wrong they are keeping up well but not everyone wants to spend game time reporting RMT. Its not our job to find them. maybe if they made it more focus to get ride of bots on markets then we might acutually might make something. need a retainer report sub command. but the only people and i will say again are FC's such as Excel that could ever afford these prices. Selling Titan Runs for 200k.
    I think they are too.. I mean, they took 10% off to account for RMT, but I really don't think that was enough. I have seen a lot of bots, both underground teleporting guys, and a person running in the exact same pattern in Coerthas for -days- (who conveniently is stopped by trade requests), go unbanned entirely. Even after several people had reported the person. Gil tells are on a huge rise, at least on my server, for the past couple weeks which would also lend to them having tons of gil. It just doesn't seem like they're that good at catching them except maybe during their mass bans, but those are so far between that the amount of money they make before those happen has to be more than any honest player can dream of making.
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