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  1. #1
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    Miss.. miss.. miss.. miss.. get one shotted.

    Anyone else have this problem on LNC? DEX is my highest stat, I run all accuracy accessories and I grab any accuracy and DEX I can get on gear.

    My typical fight goes like this:
    Invigorate
    Miss
    Miss
    Miss
    Hit once
    Miss
    Use TP from one hit to ferocity feint (because I'll never hit again)
    Miss
    Pull aggro because I turned on Life Surge (Why? I don't get this.)
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    Rentahamster's Avatar
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    Renta Hamster
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Are you fighting mobs of too high level? Level difference is the overwhelming modifier in the calculations to hit/miss.

    Are you using a rank appropriate weapon? Is it in need of repair?

    Use Life Surge before you engage. Use Comrade in Arms, too.

    You only need DEX up to about 80-100 points. After that it doesn't make much of a difference.

    Other than that, you may just only be thinking you are missing more than you actually are.
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    I fight mobs over my 8-12 levels beyond me regularly, sure I miss alot, but I have leveled all classes except pug a bit, and so far thy all miss alot at early-mid levels, but the hits I do get, get the job done.

    Rentahamster was pretty much on the money for ya......
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    Asmeret Ikati
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    Balmung
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Are you fighting mobs of too high level? Level difference is the overwhelming modifier in the calculations to hit/miss.

    Are you using a rank appropriate weapon? Is it in need of repair?

    Use Life Surge before you engage. Use Comrade in Arms, too.

    You only need DEX up to about 80-100 points. After that it doesn't make much of a difference.

    Other than that, you may just only be thinking you are missing more than you actually are.
    QFT. Only thing I can think of to add is a HQ weapon.
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    Stick it in my Balmung.


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    Solomon Grundy
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Asmeret View Post
    QFT. Only thing I can think of to add is a HQ weapon.

    And Still Precision and Hawk's Eye. Definitely open with Comrade In Arms and use Full Thrust to max your TP return per hit. Lancer is all about TP gain.

    Speed Surge > Full Thrust (twice if needed) > Comrade In Arms > Full Thrust (5 or 6 times to max TP Bar) > Twisting Vice > Skull Sunder > Heavy Trammel > Skewer > Full Thrust (3 or 4 times to hit 2k+ TP) > Hawks Eye > Ferocity > Bloodbath > Doomspike > Death > Next mob.

    Rinse and Repeat.

    And that is without using Invigorate.

    Lancer is awesomesauce.
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    Krausus Dracul
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    Famfrit
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Grundy View Post
    And Still Precision and Hawk's Eye. Definitely open with Comrade In Arms and use Full Thrust to max your TP return per hit. Lancer is all about TP gain.

    Speed Surge > Full Thrust (twice if needed) > Comrade In Arms > Full Thrust (5 or 6 times to max TP Bar) > Twisting Vice > Skull Sunder > Heavy Trammel > Skewer > Full Thrust (3 or 4 times to hit 2k+ TP) > Hawks Eye > Ferocity > Bloodbath > Doomspike > Death > Next mob.

    Rinse and Repeat.

    And that is without using Invigorate.

    Lancer is awesomesauce.
    Hmm with Invigorate II you dont need Full Thrust at all and you can get max TP in less hits running it and Lite does more damage. Though this is for NMs, I dont really remember the last time I soloed something on my Lancer aside from low rank NMs and I still found Lite to be of better use then Full, other stuff shouldn't require that much work to kill Twisting Vice, Heavy Trammel, and then Skull Sunder or Concussive Blow II (what I use now instead of Skull Sunder even with the increased TP amount, but really any 3rd Weapon Skill should suffice) is usually enough to take out any non NM mob with a few normal hits as long as it isn't something crazy like an Ogre. But everyone has there own style.
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    Zerrith Blakken
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I do have to say Lancer is the worst of the classes I have played. Pugilist is much better.
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    Alaltus's Avatar
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    Mementus Veventus
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by zerrith View Post
    I do have to say Lancer is the worst of the classes I have played. Pugilist is much better.
    If you want a bad class i suggest you go try marauder.... Lancer is awesome it can pull a bit too much hate because of self buffs but thats a problem with how hate is calculated not with Lancer it self.
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    Syntax Lies
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    Hyperion
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tame View Post
    Anyone else have this problem on LNC? DEX is my highest stat, I run all accuracy accessories and I grab any accuracy and DEX I can get on gear.

    My typical fight goes like this:
    Invigorate
    Miss
    Miss
    Miss
    Hit once
    Miss
    Use TP from one hit to ferocity feint (because I'll never hit again)
    Miss
    Pull aggro because I turned on Life Surge (Why? I don't get this.)
    is your phy lvl at least as high as you main lvl, seeing that your main rank is 36 im guessing not. After 1.18 stat points will move to you rank instead of phy lvl and that may cure your missing.

    Just checked your character, i see you phy is 38, sooo, idk
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    Zerrith Blakken
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    I should have been more specific. I mostly play solo, and I think the Lancer class is lacking. I did the "The Wights' Stuff" leve last night and got destroyed as a Lancer. I have done the same leve as a Pug of the same rank (20) and had no problems defeating the wights. Hopefully the auto-attack will help but I'm not overly optimistic about it.
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