I think I get it

[Nero]

The reason many are upset is that housing isn't available day one.

Not on Week 1, not on Month 1, not on Year 1; This goes for certain Servers since the Prices are hilarious.

Small 20,000,000 21,250,000 22,500,000 23,750,000 25,000,000
Medium 75,000,000 79,687,500 84,375,000 89,062,500 93,750,000
Large 250,000,000 265,625,000 281,250,000 296,875,000 312,500,000


This is my Server and to be honest, i was expecting arounf 60-80 Mil for a Large House in the WORST Case, but 250 Mil? Sorry, let aside that SE cut the gil from 1.0 People by 1/10, this prices are not going to work out. I am not seeing many FC's spending 20 Mil on a Small House, which is similiar to the Inn-Room in Size.

If SE does with the Prices, what they did with our Gil; 1/10... then i will consider getting one, but for now... one of the biggest features i was looking forward is done for me. I am not spending 24/7 farming Gil to MAYBE ... really MAYBE buy a Large House somewhere around next Years Christmas.

This is a gross simplification, yes. But stay tuned. If MMOs are long term affairs (i.e. I played FFXI for 7 years). And If MMOs are to have long term goals (i.e. I've been collecting pieces of a legendary weapon for months). Then some readers might be puzzled as to why tables are being flipped at housing. I think this is because many anticipated a purchase on day one. Speaking from empathy, I can understand the frustration at being denied a day one purchase.

I also did play FFXI for 7 Years and did achieve many longterm Goals.. so what? They did affect my Gameplay, while Housing is pure Cosmetic. And again.. this is not about day "day 1 purchase", it is about "year 1 purchase".

[Xairos]

As far as gil it will have to be baby steps, a cooperative effort, or borne by the richest in the FC and coat tail ride for the rest. I hope SE moves the goal posts closer. But a part of me doesn't. If i have the chance to come across a legit FC house, I will know all sorts of (in-game) work went into that place. And I will respect it all the more.

I have seen housing in other mmos. It's so common that it hardly gets noticed by the average passersby. I want to be legitimately awed in this game by seeing what a FC can do when they come together (if its legit, but i know that i might never know).

And, heck, players might actually be attached to their FCs because they helped chip in to the House. I see so many people on my server that FC hop because of how the Fc handles endgame content. With housing we have a reason to stick it out.

[Aenarion]

I mean Christ, the most expensive small house is 50M, and that'll drop every 6 hours already. How many runs of a dungeon is that exactly? A Free Company of 4 people can knock that out in less than 500 runs, though why anyone would only do dungeons for Gil is beyond me... Levequests generate far more Gil, Treasure Hunts will generate Gil, Duty Roulette generates Gil. There are plenty of ways for people to go about working towards that Gil, such a shame you have to actually play the game to get something like housing, I know.

Are you really trying to say a 0.14% drop every 6 hrs means jack? not 1%, 0.14%, and it'll be capped out at 1/2 of the original price,

Also, dungeon by itself doesn't generate much gil at all, the primary income from dungeons are the philosophy items, whose value have already been in a nose-dive for awhile, due to the fact that many people have already finished gearing out DL/Relics, and have nothing to do with their philo other than to sell them. With the added pressure now to accumulate gil (and with CT gear incoming), it'll only increase the supply of philo items on the market, while simultaneusly gutting the demand for it (CT gear, high myth cap).

And if running leves for 500 gil each is your best idea on how to make 40mil... well, it would be my humble opinion that you have more than a few screws lose between the ears.

[Sotek]

This is my Server and to be honest, i was expecting arounf 60-80 Mil for a Large House in the WORST Case, but 250 Mil?

* The price will reduce a maximum of 360 times in 90 days and will will fall to half its starting price.

Wait 90 days and it'll be 125M, still over your expected worst case, but much more reachable.

And if running leves for 500 gil each is your best idea on how to make 40mil... well, it would be my humble opinion that you have more than a few screws lose between the ears.

No, my idea of how to make 40M is running Leves for 3k Gil each turn in... No wait, 9k Gil, since they're repeatable. Actually, that isn't how I intend to make Gil primarily, but yeah... Only bonus EXP is being nerfed, and they're adding new Leves, so they could be even better.

[Doo]

MOG HOUSES ARE FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

<3 FFXI

[FelisC]

I mean Christ, the most expensive small house is 50M, and that'll drop every 6 hours already. How many runs of a dungeon is that exactly? A Free Company of 4 people can knock that out in less than 500 runs, though why anyone would only do dungeons for Gil is beyond me...

I don't disagree with the overall sentiment, but what dungeon can a 4 man run and earn 100k gil per run?

[Reslin]

The reason many are upset is that housing isn't available day one.

This is a gross simplification, yes. But stay tuned. If MMOs are long term affairs (i.e. I played FFXI for 7 years). And If MMOs are to have long term goals (i.e. I've been collecting pieces of a legendary weapon for months). Then some readers might be puzzled as to why tables are being flipped at housing. I think this is because many anticipated a purchase on day one. Speaking from empathy, I can understand the frustration at being denied a day one purchase.

Old school grinds don't translate well into modern day mmorpgs. The term korean grinder is used for such features. It is not an endearing term.

[Sotek]

I don't disagree with the overall sentiment, but what dungeon can a 4 man run and earn 100k gil per run?

Well, it's be awhile since I actually checked how much Gil I net per WP/AK, so I'm going with 3k per run (pretty sure it was closer to 5k though), I probably missed a decimal somewhere though, just woke up. Either way, four people all putting that Gil towards a house will add up fast, if they're all Spirit Binding as well, even more Gil. Eight people doing that... Sixteen... Yeah... Gil is hard to farm...

[Kaihri]

It was stated in a Live Producer Letter some time back that 3-5 people taking 1 job to Lv. 50 will be able to buy a small house. I don't even see how that is possible now.

[Reslin]

Well, it's be awhile since I actually checked how much Gil I net per WP/AK, so I'm going with 3k per run (pretty sure it was closer to 5k though), I probably missed a decimal somewhere though, just woke up. Either way, four people all putting that Gil towards a house will add up fast, if they're all Spirit Binding as well, even more Gil.

500 x 3,000 x 4 is 6,000,000. A run on average is 30 minutes. So your "Easily achievable" is in 15,000 minutes. Your easily achievable also only works on the servers with the cheapest small house. Note that is 15,000 minutes.

*Edit* My math was wrong. Even so that is a far cry from 50,000,000 and is a huge grind for a game that's marketed towards "Casuals."