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    Xairos Karalis
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    I think I get it

    The reason many are upset is that housing isn't available day one.

    This is a gross simplification, yes. But stay tuned. If MMOs are long term affairs (i.e. I played FFXI for 7 years). And If MMOs are to have long term goals (i.e. I've been collecting pieces of a legendary weapon for months). Then some readers might be puzzled as to why tables are being flipped at housing. I think this is because many anticipated a purchase on day one. Speaking from empathy, I can understand the frustration at being denied a day one purchase.

    If one were to browse these forums you might pick up on the desire for some players to have a long term goal. Some players of old called for Relic weapons to take as long as they did "back in the day". Under that model, those that achieved their weapons loved the crap of them, those that didn't want to put in the time passed it all together. I propose that the same will be said of those who obtain a house in this game.
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    Ico Sovereign
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    Or for some people, housing isn't available at all without a mindless gil grind.
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    Ico Dailemont @ Hyperion (formerly Durandal (formerly Rabanastre))

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    To some obtaining that much gil is a nigh impossible goal there just isn't alot of ways to actually accumulate gil in the game right now especially on the servers wich require much higher purchase costs.

    4m? yeah thats understandable. 40m? sorry...
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    Gold Saw
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    I don't care about housing but If I'm going to fork over hundreds of millions of gill for a large house. That crap better be a 20,000 square foot mansion.
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    Sefiria Satara
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    Housing is how XIs Relic weapons were way back; a whole group works towards one. Except now, instead of a single person getting the reward, everyone gets a house. Pretty good system in my opinion, and that's only for the largest houses, small houses are still pretty damn cheap for a group to achieve. People just seem to be complaining that they can't get their large house next week, same "problem" with every other piece of content; people want the rewards instantly. If large housing cost as much as small housing is planned to, people would be done with housing in a matter of weeks...

    I mean Christ, the most expensive small house is 50M, and that'll drop every 6 hours already. How many runs of a dungeon is that exactly? A Free Company of 4 people can knock that out in less than 500 runs, though why anyone would only do dungeons for Gil is beyond me... Levequests generate far more Gil, Treasure Hunts will generate Gil, Duty Roulette generates Gil. There are plenty of ways for people to go about working towards that Gil, such a shame you have to actually play the game to get something like housing, I know.
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    Last edited by Sotek; 12-15-2013 at 05:32 AM.

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    Austherus Aynvals
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    The problem is that the house should not be a long term goal by itself. What should be a long term goal is the furniture, decoration and expansions. Struggling for months just to buy it just takes all the fun away.

    Think about Skyrim housing. It's easy to buy a house, but I could spend a very long time hunting for cool stuff to put inside: books, statues, armor, etc.
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    I mean on one hand, you have players clamoring for hard content in order to make memories (bring back mob trains; lose tethering; make zones punishing). Where are those voices now?
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    People have every right to be upset. I think like 3 of the live letters showcased housing and they put a lot of effort into hyping everyone up for it and then this.

    Only SE could make endgame raids so casual and make should-be casual content like housing so extremely hardcore. I honestly see the population taking a swift nosedive unless they change their mind before the patch hits, and even then they're bound to lose people because of this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xairos View Post
    I mean on one hand, you have players clamoring for hard content in order to make memories (bring back mob trains; lose tethering; make zones punishing). Where are those voices now?
    Hardcores want hard content that challenges them and keeps them busy. There's nothing challenging about saving 625M gil, it's just f'n stupid.

    Housing should be casual content. Everyone should be able to get in on it. It's suppose to help you relax in the game, not stress you out and get you pissed off.
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    Last edited by permbanned; 12-15-2013 at 05:35 AM.

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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xairos View Post
    I think this is because many anticipated a purchase on day one.
    No. It's because I don't see my FC ever having the money to make this purchase. And I'm pretty sure this is a solid indication of how out of reach single-player housing will be.
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    I don't appreciate being lied to that's what really gets me.
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