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    Player
    Velveteer's Avatar
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    Rouge Velvet
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I don't appreciate being lied to that's what really gets me.
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    Nero's Avatar
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    Karon Mephisto
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Xairos View Post
    The reason many are upset is that housing isn't available day one.
    Not on Week 1, not on Month 1, not on Year 1; This goes for certain Servers since the Prices are hilarious.

    Small 20,000,000 21,250,000 22,500,000 23,750,000 25,000,000
    Medium 75,000,000 79,687,500 84,375,000 89,062,500 93,750,000
    Large 250,000,000 265,625,000 281,250,000 296,875,000 312,500,000


    This is my Server and to be honest, i was expecting arounf 60-80 Mil for a Large House in the WORST Case, but 250 Mil? Sorry, let aside that SE cut the gil from 1.0 People by 1/10, this prices are not going to work out. I am not seeing many FC's spending 20 Mil on a Small House, which is similiar to the Inn-Room in Size.

    If SE does with the Prices, what they did with our Gil; 1/10... then i will consider getting one, but for now... one of the biggest features i was looking forward is done for me. I am not spending 24/7 farming Gil to MAYBE ... really MAYBE buy a Large House somewhere around next Years Christmas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xairos View Post
    This is a gross simplification, yes. But stay tuned. If MMOs are long term affairs (i.e. I played FFXI for 7 years). And If MMOs are to have long term goals (i.e. I've been collecting pieces of a legendary weapon for months). Then some readers might be puzzled as to why tables are being flipped at housing. I think this is because many anticipated a purchase on day one. Speaking from empathy, I can understand the frustration at being denied a day one purchase.
    I also did play FFXI for 7 Years and did achieve many longterm Goals.. so what? They did affect my Gameplay, while Housing is pure Cosmetic. And again.. this is not about day "day 1 purchase", it is about "year 1 purchase".
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    Sotek's Avatar
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    Sefiria Satara
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    Twintania
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    This is my Server and to be honest, i was expecting arounf 60-80 Mil for a Large House in the WORST Case, but 250 Mil?
    * The price will reduce a maximum of 360 times in 90 days and will will fall to half its starting price.
    Wait 90 days and it'll be 125M, still over your expected worst case, but much more reachable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
    And if running leves for 500 gil each is your best idea on how to make 40mil... well, it would be my humble opinion that you have more than a few screws lose between the ears.
    No, my idea of how to make 40M is running Leves for 3k Gil each turn in... No wait, 9k Gil, since they're repeatable. Actually, that isn't how I intend to make Gil primarily, but yeah... Only bonus EXP is being nerfed, and they're adding new Leves, so they could be even better.
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    Last edited by Sotek; 12-15-2013 at 05:46 AM.

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    Xairos Karalis
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    As far as gil it will have to be baby steps, a cooperative effort, or borne by the richest in the FC and coat tail ride for the rest. I hope SE moves the goal posts closer. But a part of me doesn't. If i have the chance to come across a legit FC house, I will know all sorts of (in-game) work went into that place. And I will respect it all the more.

    I have seen housing in other mmos. It's so common that it hardly gets noticed by the average passersby. I want to be legitimately awed in this game by seeing what a FC can do when they come together (if its legit, but i know that i might never know).

    And, heck, players might actually be attached to their FCs because they helped chip in to the House. I see so many people on my server that FC hop because of how the Fc handles endgame content. With housing we have a reason to stick it out.
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    Last edited by Xairos; 12-15-2013 at 05:47 AM.

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    Buster Posey
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    MOG HOUSES ARE FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

    <3 FFXI
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    Pharzyr Catro
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xairos View Post
    The reason many are upset is that housing isn't available day one.

    This is a gross simplification, yes. But stay tuned. If MMOs are long term affairs (i.e. I played FFXI for 7 years). And If MMOs are to have long term goals (i.e. I've been collecting pieces of a legendary weapon for months). Then some readers might be puzzled as to why tables are being flipped at housing. I think this is because many anticipated a purchase on day one. Speaking from empathy, I can understand the frustration at being denied a day one purchase.
    Old school grinds don't translate well into modern day mmorpgs. The term korean grinder is used for such features. It is not an endearing term.
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    Kaihri's Avatar
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    Kaihri Mahougami
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    It was stated in a Live Producer Letter some time back that 3-5 people taking 1 job to Lv. 50 will be able to buy a small house. I don't even see how that is possible now.
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    Nanaya's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Shiki Tohno
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    Excalibur
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    Alchemist Lv 52
    At its core, I understand why FC housing would be expensive. It's a house for your entire Free Company, no one person is meant to fork over the gil. It's something everyone in the company should theoretically contribute towards.

    But the amount is just baffling to me. I feel like we're also missing any semblance of scale, since "Small/Medium/Large" is rather ambiguous. How many people are expected to be in a small FC house? 10? Therefore 2mil-2.5mil per person on my server. Still a bit much, but at least that is slightly more palatable.

    Granted I'd rather just keep my money and purchase a personal house whenever it is out. Now that I know Square is out of their collective minds, I can go full Scrooge McDuck and refuse to put any of my precious gil into the economy, gg no re.
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    Andybell256's Avatar
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    Amarant Coral
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    All the people saying furniture should be the long term goal when you consider how easy it is to level crafts and how easy it is to gather items for crafting, in 14 this just wouldn't work plain and simple, the only difficult piece of furniture to get will be the Ads illuminati and my fc got that on our 6th twin kill, we need something for hardcore players to strive for and why is it that everyone has to have teh biggest house on teh best plots no one is forcing you to pay 300-600mil you could always buy the cheaper ones or are you entitled to the best because you pay the subscription ?
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    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    Jynx Masamune
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Well if someones willing to drop 40m on a house they better be willing to buy my "Cardboard box chair" for at least 100k a pop.
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