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    Xairos Karalis
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    I think I get it

    The reason many are upset is that housing isn't available day one.

    This is a gross simplification, yes. But stay tuned. If MMOs are long term affairs (i.e. I played FFXI for 7 years). And If MMOs are to have long term goals (i.e. I've been collecting pieces of a legendary weapon for months). Then some readers might be puzzled as to why tables are being flipped at housing. I think this is because many anticipated a purchase on day one. Speaking from empathy, I can understand the frustration at being denied a day one purchase.

    If one were to browse these forums you might pick up on the desire for some players to have a long term goal. Some players of old called for Relic weapons to take as long as they did "back in the day". Under that model, those that achieved their weapons loved the crap of them, those that didn't want to put in the time passed it all together. I propose that the same will be said of those who obtain a house in this game.
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    Ico Sovereign
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    Or for some people, housing isn't available at all without a mindless gil grind.
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    Ico Dailemont @ Hyperion (formerly Durandal (formerly Rabanastre))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereign View Post
    Or for some people, housing isn't available at all without a mindless gil grind.
    Gil sellers will own housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmaMalma View Post
    Gil sellers will own housing.
    That would be a terrible idea for business.
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    To some obtaining that much gil is a nigh impossible goal there just isn't alot of ways to actually accumulate gil in the game right now especially on the servers wich require much higher purchase costs.

    4m? yeah thats understandable. 40m? sorry...
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    Gold Saw
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    I don't care about housing but If I'm going to fork over hundreds of millions of gill for a large house. That crap better be a 20,000 square foot mansion.
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    Jeyza Re
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelouch001 View Post
    I don't care about housing but If I'm going to fork over hundreds of millions of gill for a large house. That crap better be a 20,000 square foot mansion.
    You aren't forking over hundreds of millions for a house.

    You're forking it over for the Land. The house costs more.
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    Sefiria Satara
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    Housing is how XIs Relic weapons were way back; a whole group works towards one. Except now, instead of a single person getting the reward, everyone gets a house. Pretty good system in my opinion, and that's only for the largest houses, small houses are still pretty damn cheap for a group to achieve. People just seem to be complaining that they can't get their large house next week, same "problem" with every other piece of content; people want the rewards instantly. If large housing cost as much as small housing is planned to, people would be done with housing in a matter of weeks...

    I mean Christ, the most expensive small house is 50M, and that'll drop every 6 hours already. How many runs of a dungeon is that exactly? A Free Company of 4 people can knock that out in less than 500 runs, though why anyone would only do dungeons for Gil is beyond me... Levequests generate far more Gil, Treasure Hunts will generate Gil, Duty Roulette generates Gil. There are plenty of ways for people to go about working towards that Gil, such a shame you have to actually play the game to get something like housing, I know.
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    Last edited by Sotek; 12-15-2013 at 05:32 AM.

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    Aenarion Estelvir
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    I mean Christ, the most expensive small house is 50M, and that'll drop every 6 hours already. How many runs of a dungeon is that exactly? A Free Company of 4 people can knock that out in less than 500 runs, though why anyone would only do dungeons for Gil is beyond me... Levequests generate far more Gil, Treasure Hunts will generate Gil, Duty Roulette generates Gil. There are plenty of ways for people to go about working towards that Gil, such a shame you have to actually play the game to get something like housing, I know.
    Are you really trying to say a 0.14% drop every 6 hrs means jack? not 1%, 0.14%, and it'll be capped out at 1/2 of the original price,

    Also, dungeon by itself doesn't generate much gil at all, the primary income from dungeons are the philosophy items, whose value have already been in a nose-dive for awhile, due to the fact that many people have already finished gearing out DL/Relics, and have nothing to do with their philo other than to sell them. With the added pressure now to accumulate gil (and with CT gear incoming), it'll only increase the supply of philo items on the market, while simultaneusly gutting the demand for it (CT gear, high myth cap).

    And if running leves for 500 gil each is your best idea on how to make 40mil... well, it would be my humble opinion that you have more than a few screws lose between the ears.
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    Felis Catus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    I mean Christ, the most expensive small house is 50M, and that'll drop every 6 hours already. How many runs of a dungeon is that exactly? A Free Company of 4 people can knock that out in less than 500 runs, though why anyone would only do dungeons for Gil is beyond me...
    I don't disagree with the overall sentiment, but what dungeon can a 4 man run and earn 100k gil per run?
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