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    TempestZane's Avatar
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    Tempest Zane
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I'm more upset about the following:

    The following battle mechanics have been changed specifically for PvP:
    *Casting will always be interuppted upon receiving direct damage.


    That, and the scathe nerf, good luck dealing damage as BLM in pvp...
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    Nemhy Viteri
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    lol at blackmages thinking they got shafted. Look at summoner bro
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    Purutzil's Avatar
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    Sivia Ferrus
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I agree, BLM in PVp pretty much shafted anything that comes its way. Thats what you were talking about right, how broke sleep is in pvp?


    Haha kidding... though seriously, what are you on that you think they got shafted? Isn't really much changes I seen that the class should be hurt by what was really done, at least to the extent of ridiculous outrage over it. Though be nice if they made BLM dps actually remotely challenging, right now its the biggest joke in game to play as. Big hits are nice and all, but having a rotation that mimics what other MMos would have say a level 10 do is silly to me.
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    Starkbeaumont's Avatar
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    well the change to the boots is really stupid. should have at least kept the acc instead of det but well, gonna have to buy AF which look stupid especially with the allagan pants.
    Scathe change makes no sense at all... I also fail to see what made blizzard 2 so overpowered

    What I'm really missing though is the change about the "double flare" or let's call spell speed "bug"?

    Edit: Bro fist to all the SMNs. i don't get your nerfs either... especially if you look at what mnk got
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    xRitzx's Avatar
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    Ritz Blitz
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I have black mage as an alt and only use a main and an alt about equally for all easy content. So I'm not just a paladin or some other class that's biased. I think we as black mages didn't get nerfed too bad. The virus nerf kind of made me scratch my head because it seemed like a great move to get cross classed. Now you only want 1 person in the group to have it basically. The blizzard 2 nerf was needed IMO. Seriously, a black mage should not basically be standing in the middle of multiple enemies to get the highest possible AOE. That's too much risk. Fire 2 should be used in the primary AOE rotation IMO. Scathe didn't need to get a nerf because it is already just a mediocre move, great to use if you need to move but otherwise you never use it. Then the freeze buff was needed. I used freeze occasionally but I don't know what enemies it works on and using it on the wrong enemies was a serious DPS loss. Now freeze can be used more often and if you try it on an enemy and it doesn't work, it won't seem as useless. Just my opinion I'm probably really off on freeze but overall black mage didn't get nerfed that bad.
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    OptimalZedd's Avatar
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    Shin Xno
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    the mana tick is synced now, so no more double flare

    nobody seems to notice that , its the biggest nerf

    cause bliz 3 -> 1st tick of mana gonna take a full 3 sec now, and when you fire 3, the following fire 1 wont be speed up like it used to be
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by OptimalZedd View Post
    the mana tick is synced now, so no more double flare

    nobody seems to notice that , its the biggest nerf

    cause bliz 3 -> 1st tick of mana gonna take a full 3 sec now, and when you fire 3, the following fire 1 wont be speed up like it used to be
    I fail to find this in the patch notes
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    Aleksandr Deicide
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    Marauder Lv 70
    As far as the B2 nerf and Freeze buff.
    Well, Freeze NEEDED some kind of buff to make it worthwhile. What this means is that you can do 2 Freezes after Tranpose-ing after Flare instead of 2 B2's, but AT RANGE! This is effectively a buff to BLM aoe capabilities.
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    As far as the B2 nerf and Freeze buff.
    Well, Freeze NEEDED some kind of buff to make it worthwhile. What this means is that you can do 2 Freezes after Tranpose-ing after Flare instead of 2 B2's, but AT RANGE! This is effectively a buff to BLM aoe capabilities.
    That's what I said!
    Before this became a SMN thread, lol.
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Ninja Lv 70
    It's no biggie to me. So b2 is nerfed. dont use it anyway, even on speedruns. Scathe nerfed = so what dont use it anyway unless a mob is almost dead and i want to hurry and kill it, and isn't used on a boss unless the boss is insignificant and almost dead (speedrun bosses). My fires and firestarters, thunders and thunderclouds remain the same. Freeze gets buffed, so i 'll put a freeze somewhere after a transpose from my second flare (not from the double flare "bug") in a speedrun to give some time to heal the tank if they need it, or just let the party do whatever.

    Still got big damage on what matters, still got big crits, still got good frequency of procs. Now if they decide to lower the freq of firestarter or thundercloud.....then we got problems.
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