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  1. #61
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    Andybell256's Avatar
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    Amarant Coral
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    Hang on, you run coil and you never use rod on leech bugs on turn 4? Never on muilt stacked snake and never rod on twintania? I find your story hard to believe
    i use it as a free tp attack when it procs wide volley is more tp efficient, my group lb's snakes and our healers dont suck so the 10% reduction for death sentence isnt needed as it only shaves a max of 600ish damage off
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  2. #62
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    Billzey's Avatar
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    Sakura Ephemera
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    Brynhildr
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    Archer Lv 60
    I'm happy about the "nerf" personally. It was much less detrimental that I thought it would be considering how powerful BRD is and will continue to be. I was expecting them to remove blood for blood completely, but nope! And now I don't even need to waste TP with RoD (lol).

    Nobody brings BRD for RoD, so I don't really see how this is a nerf. BRD+mage combo is the strongest in the game currently. People use BRD for its songs and its extremely high DPS, hence the minor nerf.
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  3. #63
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    Majidah's Avatar
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    Majidah Sihaam
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    Hang on, you run coil and you never use rod on leech bugs on turn 4? Never on muilt stacked snake and never rod on twintania? I find your story hard to believe. War skill only affect 1 target and rod is a aoe. that;s different. It is like SE is FORCE people to use war. Forcing people to change is never a good thing.
    That Andy guy claims we miss to see the bigger picture, but besides what you pointed out correctly, WAR's storm debuff is part of their DPS rotation. Not their enmity generating rotation.
    So WAR's mitigation will be:
    - Single target
    - Either used when off tanking or not upkept as much as RoD when tanking
    - Impossible to be used in strategies like cadeceus where the tanks are apart
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    Last edited by Majidah; 12-15-2013 at 06:15 AM.

  4. #64
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    Delnoir's Avatar
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    Delnoir Vermillion
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 70


    You all knew it was coming.
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  5. #65
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    Xellos2099's Avatar
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    Flame Colonel
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    Excalibur
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Andybell256 View Post
    i use it as a free tp attack when it procs wide volley is more tp efficient, my group lb's snakes and our healers dont suck so the 10% reduction for death sentence isnt needed as it only shaves a max of 600ish damage off
    Anyone smell some BS here?
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  6. #66
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    Andybell256's Avatar
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    Amarant Coral
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Axidrain View Post
    im also concerned of that 427 accuracy of his. hmmm....

    maybe he meant cleared Turn 1? maybe?
    also please if your going to check my profile at least get your numbers correct 460 accuracy without food and if you viewed my profile you should have checked my achievements and seen i have binds that tie 2
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  7. #67
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    StrejdaTom's Avatar
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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Ragnarok
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    Bard Lv 70
    To be honest, I expected a bigger nerf so I am quite satisfied lol.
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  8. #68
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    Excalibur
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    That Andy guy claims we miss to see the bigger picture, but besides what you pointed out correctly, WAR's storm debuff is part of their DPS rotation. Not their enmity generating rotation.
    So WAR's mitigation will be:
    - Single target
    - Either used when off tanking or not upkept as much as RoD when tanking
    - Impossible to be used in strategies like cadeceus where the tanks are apart
    There is NO big picture. The simply fact is that, SE want to FORCE us to use War, but no one in their right mind ever will, , so they nerfed both virus and ROD. This will made turn 4-5 a lot harder than it needed to be with virus and rod nerf. Or they want to made turn 5 harder to prevent the lack of content. People cry about bard overpower on Titan so they nerfed bard and buff other to made other class more desirable. But in the end nothing will change, melee will always be the first one to die. In the end, melee bring it all upon themselves for harder fight, they reap what they sow and i will enjoy their tear when they suddenly wipe in turn 4.
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  9. #69
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    Bella Chia
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AnthraxLam View Post
    Bards were suppose to be a support class from the beginning anyways.
    And how will they support with -10% eva instead of -10% attack then?
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  10. #70
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    Kevanov Parentzovich
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 50
    As i Dragoon i agree with the bard nerf, I was doing my rotation perfectly against Titan, and i was getting outdps by a low geared bard... You are supposed to be a support class...

    Good Job Square Enix. Hope you dont revert that nerf !
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