I'm disgusted with the bard nerf.

[EinSoFZ]

Always kind of disliked using RoD anyway if only because I have enough of my TP being consumed, so I don't really mind that they altered it.....but what kind of shit is reducing evasion? I mean, make it something with some kind of practical use for the TP cost and not an additional effect I feel free to ignore altogether.

Unless SE plans on adding some crazy evasive monsters to the game.

[Yoruichi4478]

Bards were suppose to be a support class from the beginning anyways.

Rain of Death was doing support genius. It helped mitigate dmg and aid survivability.

[Yoruichi4478]

Rain of death wasn't really a nerf. The evasion down is needed for multiple classes.

We've done just fine w/o needing additional eva help.

[Maddox]

Well there is always Musketeer class and Archers 2nd Job arriving in the future.

Arriving in that unknown possibly desolate future that may just be 4 score and 40 years from now where robot Abe Lincolns wander Eorzea mounted on bears.

[Yoruichi4478]

They just made turn 4 and 5 a lot harder by nerfing rain of death. Thanks for all the cry to nerf bard people... you reap what you sow.

I quite agree. The adage of "be careful what you wish for" comes to mind.

[Yoruichi4478]

the Rain of Death nerf happened because warrior's get the 10% debuff on Storm's Path now

they just moved the effect to a different class :s

So war becomes the new brd when it comes to 10% reduced dmg? gj SE.

[Yoruichi4478]

As a MNK i see this change most welcome, as i have to keep some piece with Acc+ to be capped and lose some dps~. It's still a small boost, but... if it's affect for more than one member, it can become a powerfull buff. Now Bardes will have to use it everytime it's fade off.

To bad it's change to enemy attack but sometime, attack is the best defense.

You do realise it costs 200tp per use right and how much tp do we get? even using army's paeon we would still eat away at our mana pool which could be used for ballad or foe.

[Yoruichi4478]

RoD nerf is actually a buff. Now that WAR takes care of the debuff you don't need to spend TP for it anymore. What's there to be angry about?

I know very few who play war to it's capacity and are good at it. Besides most coil groups I've seen use 2 plds. Mine does use a war as the OT but pretty much every posted vid I've watched for coil uses 2 pld standard.
Oh and btw u non brd, rod is aoe so everything in range that is hit by it gets the rod effect or did til patch.

[Yoruichi4478]

Before we discuss the nerf, lets look at the problem. Prior to 2.1 melee DPS were having harder times finding BC groups. Groups wanted to take in 2 bards = less spots for other dps.

The solution should then be, make it desirable to have a brd, but less optimal to stack 2. Partly addressed with buffing melee dps. They also moved the dmg debuff from bard to war, cause we know no one wanted to take a war into endgame. This now makes pld/war desirable as a 2 tank setup.

So the question is, do these changes to bard make bard undesirable for endgame? Cause at the end of the day, that's what matters.

I would argue that Mage's ballad, silence and foe requiem, were really the main reasons people were taking bard into BC in the first place. When you say, that's all a bard has, I would argue that that's still pretty awesome, and will continue to be sought after.

We were already taking a pld and a war w/o them screwing classes over.

[Empressia]

IS reducing enemy evasion by 10% equals to increase accuracy by 10% too?if it is, well thats quite a buff u know esp with some nerf to BiS gears with tons of accuracy