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    Majidah's Avatar
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    Majidah Sihaam
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50

    I'm disgusted with the bard nerf.

    Bard nerf:

    - Rain of Death now gives -10% enemy eva instead of -10% enemy attack (with 100% acc isn't that useless?).
    - Shadowbind recast increased from 12 to 40 (was this even necessary considering the built resistance?)
    - Hawk's Eye now has 100% acc (this is technically a buff, I guess? with 100% acc through equipment this makes no sense)
    - Blood for blood reduced to 10% in cross-job.
    - Internal release reduced from 20% to 10% in cross job.

    I can take our DPS getting nerfed...
    I don't care either way about Shadowbind (which makes the nerf uncalled for tbh)...
    but RAIN OF DEATH??!!

    There was no need to mess up Rain of Death. It's literally useless now. One of the MOST useful utility skills we had!

    Uses for Rod before nerf:
    Before Titan's stomps.
    If Cadeceus's get more than 2 stacks or enraged.
    ADS it's good to keep it up 24/7 to it eats slower through stoneskin/adloquium and doesn't put stacks on your tanks.
    Each twintania fireball, before any twintania death sentence, before twintania's 2hr skill.

    Uses for RoD after nerf:
    If someone is undergeared or if you want to gear yourself under the acc cap to make up for the dps nerf.

    Overall RoD made it easier on your healers, saved MP in healing, helped the tanks aswell.
    The only sense I can make of these changes is SE wants us to steer away from acc equipment, put it all into det and crit, and keep rain of death up 24/7. Which would basically destroy our TP. Unless they were to make RoD last over a minute or make it cost like no tp or make Paeon affect also the caster and have a lower MP cost and removed the -20% attack.

    But all and all these nerfs feel half assed. It feels like they were done by someone who doesn't play the game.

    Now bard isn't really support, it isn't really a DD, and it isn't really a debuffer.



    Mage's ballad, silence and foe requiem. That's it. That's what we boil down into now.
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    Last edited by Majidah; 12-15-2013 at 06:39 AM.

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    Bards were suppose to be a support class from the beginning anyways.
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    Majidah Sihaam
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthraxLam View Post
    Bards were suppose to be a support class from the beginning anyways.
    We aren't really support though. We can't heal anyone (outside our LB), we can't raise in battle, we can't make others stronger (other than offensive casters).
    No one runs out of TP to make Paeon useful at all. The really need to fix that song, not nerf RoD.
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    Misaki Satomi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    No one runs out of TP to make Paeon useful at all.
    What? Monks run out of TP in 1-3 minutes.
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    Vylandra Postop
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    We aren't really support though. We can't heal anyone (outside our LB), we can't raise in battle, we can't make others stronger (other than offensive casters).
    No one runs out of TP to make Paeon useful at all. The really need to fix that song, not nerf RoD.
    No one runs out of TP? Do you even RUN coil? >.> If I were you I'd be more concerned about Virus rotations being completely and totally shut down. Bosses are going to sit on our faces now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    We aren't really support though. We can't heal anyone (outside our LB), we can't raise in battle, we can't make others stronger (other than offensive casters).
    No one runs out of TP to make Paeon useful at all. The really need to fix that song, not nerf RoD.
    There more then just 1 way to be a support class... O.o Healing is just one way, Time Mage is.... Bard for XI was and don't for get RDM was a support job too. Yes yes there all a lil DPS too, BUT there also Support.. Bard is a Support/DPS as well.. Healing Tp/Mp and buffing damage for caster DPS for party members is still support O.o YES you're right in the point of there not more Support then DPS, but support is STILL support after all.
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    Bella Chia
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthraxLam View Post
    Bards were suppose to be a support class from the beginning anyways.
    And how will they support with -10% eva instead of -10% attack then?
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    Kya Purrcy
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AnthraxLam View Post
    Bards were suppose to be a support class from the beginning anyways.
    Rain of Death was doing support genius. It helped mitigate dmg and aid survivability.
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    Sally Syrup
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    Sargatanas
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    Rain of death wasn't really a nerf. The evasion down is needed for multiple classes.
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    Adventure, that's the life for me!

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