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  1. #21
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    Schmitty's Avatar
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    Schmitty Jukeboots
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I am sorry for my WHM brethren out there for your loss. But boy am I happy about the Lustrate buff!

    Time to go full cleric stance all the time! ; P
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  2. #22
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    Melithea's Avatar
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    Melithea Tinvelle
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    It's kinda funny how this attitude is omnipresent now given back when XIV was first released, it was all the SCHs crying that the SE dev team favoured WHMs and literally almost nothing has changed from then to now except people learned how to play SCH more proficiently.
    Pets were fixed/improved in 2.05 and are getting more fixes/improvements in 2.1. Meanwhile WHM got nothing but a kick in a gut, and there hasn't been a day when SCH actually needed to play catch-up. During the beta there was a thread about how OP ACN was. If I were a pure numbers person and didn't struggle with pet management myself (not to mention thousands of myth invested into WHM), god knows I would change over. We're on a very troubling trajectory with this overall nerf.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aedra View Post
    I believe the main reason for SE to nerf the HPS from Medica2 is because some whm would spam medica2 brainlessly with a team of 2+ bard for ballad non-stop.
    Heck I actually like the Medica II change. Same amount of overall healing, but spread out so I both gain hate slower and have more time with it up.
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    Last edited by Melithea; 12-15-2013 at 05:04 AM. Reason: Added reply

  3. #23
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    Raminax's Avatar
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    Shinonome Sanada
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 92
    The Holy nerf is fine, I suppose. I'll admit it was very powerful because stuff like a decent tank and Mage's Ballad could remove the few drawbacks it had. That said, it's still going to be a very good AoE, though I'm sure we'll all miss the ~17% potency nerf of it. I'm also curious what the new animations/motions of it are like, assuming the patch notes aren't pulling my leg.

    Cure III is still going to be fairly situational, even with the radius increase. I don't particularly care about the Overcure proc change, seeing as I never liked random procs as a healer anyway. Overall, the changes seem to be aimed at usability, what with the halved mana cost (during an Overcure proc, of course) reducing the punishment of misusing it and extra radius making it easier to hit several targets, just the way it was intended to be used.

    The Medica II change is probably intended to solidify it as one of those AoE heals you cast once in a blue moon to complement your plain Medica. Can't say that I like it, though. Being changed from a fairly powerful Regen effect to a trickling Regen effect will need some time to adjust to. :/
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  4. #24
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    GinTama's Avatar
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    Strawberry Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    What do you think about SE's changes?
    Holy nerfed
    Cure 3 still situational as ever.
    Medica 2 regen nerf meaning lower hp ticks on the tank
    Lustrate on full ilvl90 warrior is something i want to see.
    medica 2 is still as potent as before, its actually a buff, since now you dont get as amuch aggro using it since the first regen tick wont be so much.
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  5. #25
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    SulwynCaliope's Avatar
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    Sulwyn Caliope
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    Tonberry
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Schmitty View Post
    I am sorry for my WHM brethren out there for your loss. But boy am I happy about the Lustrate buff!

    Time to go full cleric stance all the time! ; P
    I completely didn't think about that but your point about cleric stance is a good one. Between being able to macro fairy skills and lustrate, we almost will never have to switch off clerics stance while farming dungeons for tomes. XD
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  6. #26
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    M'kael Jin
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    I'm indifferent for all the changes ... except the holy nerf.
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  7. #27
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    Kyomi Dreamweaver
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    I am confused about the changes
    I mean I found my SCH already easier and more powerful to play than my WHM and the pet and lustrate changes only make the SCH even more powerful for end game (unless they did something totally weird and new with how bosses work in the new content..)
    Cure III is still super situational. First you need everyone clumped up and those situations are not found often (Titan, Garuda, Coil T5) and in those situations I still prefer Medica II. Not to mention you have to hope that Cure II Triggers for Cure III the exact right moment.

    Holy nerf is ok in my opinion.
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    Last edited by Kyomih; 12-15-2013 at 05:50 AM.

  8. #28
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    Bellybell's Avatar
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    Bella Chia
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Holy nerfed is called for, it's still a powerful skill.
    MedicaII becoming niche skill, worse for topping off AoE burst like Garuda/Titan but it might be better in T2 for keeping party HP from oneshotted by laser. Altho I don't really know if the new potency will be enough to actually do that.
    CureII triggers for CureIII is not really interesting, even with halved MP it stills about the same as CureII with less potency and I don't expected the situation where I throwing CureII to be in need of AoE heal CureIII.

    All in all, i thinks i should try dual scholar in coil already.
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    Last edited by Bellybell; 12-15-2013 at 06:08 AM.

  9. #29
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    sharazisspecial's Avatar
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    Bunny Boo
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by GinTama View Post
    medica 2 is still as potent as before, its actually a buff, since now you dont get as amuch aggro using it since the first regen tick wont be so much.
    Its a nerf 15 second of double potency is waaaay better for how SE have designed content.

    400 ticks for 15 seconds vs 200hp tick over 30 seconds. In 15 seconds you heal 1000 hp more.

    LoL brainlessely spam medica 2... New medica2 is way more "brainless", you keep it up for its piddly hot. Which acts like a top-upper for those at 90%. Saving the need for casting an extra medica/succor.

    All in all, i thinks i should try dual scholar in coil already.
    Healing-wise yep im thinking dual sch is way easier now . But 1 thing thats penalizing it is SE have made this dumb change...

    When multiple characters are playing the same class/job in a party, the gauge for level 2 and level 3 limit breaks will now fill more slowly than before.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 12-15-2013 at 06:18 AM.

  10. #30
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    PenutButter's Avatar
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    Peanut Little
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Free Cure was nerfed, which is kinda odd cuz Whm are the ones with MP issues.

    Cure III was buffed but I'm still having trouble seeing how this will make it any more not useless. Guess we'll see.

    Medica II was nerfed but, honestly, its a very minor one.

    Holy is the biggest nerf, though it kinda needed it. Its too bad there are so many Whms who did not learn the beauty of Holy before its nerf.
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