WHAT?! 625 Million for first class House?

[LordSideKicks]

I think the smaller housing is overpriced. It would be nice if there were a lot of entry level plots for people so most FCs, casual or otherwise would have access to it without too much grinding.

However, I think the high end plots are spot on. They are massive investments that exist for prestige and prestige alone. They're meant to be ridiculous goals to work towards for the 1% of the 1% that have to have the best and biggest houses.

Only the 1% have basement to build airship and other special benefits.Who wanna join fc with small or medium housing. Not forgetting you can't upgrade directly.

[Giantbane]

Only the 1% have basement to build airship and other special benefits.Who wanna join fc with small or medium housing. Not forgetting you can't upgrade directly.

Right because you *need* your own FC airship in this game. It's already ridiculously cheap and easy to get anywhere in this game at near a moment's notice.

[Taaz]

Right because you *need* your own FC airship in this game. It's already ridiculously cheap and easy to get anywhere in this game at near a moment's notice.

It's content im paying them to make. You bet your ass I better get access to it.

You wanna loot lock coil/crystal tower to one piece every 4 months? Whatever, i still get to see the content you were paid to develop.
You wanna make chocobo leveling retardly grindy? Whatever, i still get to at least get a chocobo to play with.
You wanna make housing out of reach of most of your players? Fuck that. Can't see content i'm paying you to make. THIS IS THE ISSUE.
You wanna do it right? Everyone gets to get a little house cheap, upgrading to massive mansions involves grinding company points/items/some gil for upgrades. Everyone sees the content, elitist grinders get to be elitest.

This is what i expect when i pay a sub.

[LordSideKicks]

Right because you *need* your own FC airship in this game. It's already ridiculously cheap and easy to get anywhere in this game at near a moment's notice.

Did you read the live letters on FC housing where Yoshida said FC airship will have more feature then juz smuggling lalafel organs.

[Giantbane]

It's content im paying them to make. You bet your ass I better get access to it.

You wanna loot lock coil/crystal tower to one piece every 4 months? Whatever, i still get to see the content you were paid to develop.
You wanna make chocobo leveling retardly grindy? Whatever, i still get to at least get a chocobo to play with.
You wanna make housing out of reach of most of your players? Fuck that. Can't see content i'm paying you to make. THIS IS THE ISSUE.
You wanna do it right? Everyone gets to get a little house cheap, upgrading to massive mansions involves grinding company points/items/some gil for upgrades. Everyone sees the content, elitist grinders get to be elitest.

This is what i expect when i pay a sub.

Your subscription fee pays for about 1 tester working 1 hour to test the content that gets made. As such, not every piece of content and every line of code is going to be explicitly for your benefit.

Some things you need to compete with others to get them. You can't just grind it out. You want to buy a big mansion? You pony up the cash before all the plots are taken. You wait until the prices come down or SE "sees the light" and slashes housing prices, then those plots might be gone and you can't have them. It's what makes those items special, desirable and exclusive. If anybody can get them then it removes the urgency to claim it and the prestige of having it. Which is sort of the point of the massive "HEY LOOK AT ME" housing plots. If you want that, go get it. If you don't want all the hassle that goes with it, then don't and get something smaller.

As long as it doesn't grant any real benefit to PvE, PvP or crafting why exactly do you care?

[Taaz]

As long as it doesn't grant any real benefit to PvE, PvP or crafting why exactly do you care?

It's a feature my sub money is helping to put in game. That's why we care. A rather LARGE feature at that, that has been previewed, pre-previewed, and hyped up for months on end. I want the content i'm helping to make.

I like how you say you don't need to grind it out, when the only way to purchase these houses is to do just that. "Oh , sell stuff on the market" Is always your ignorant answers on these forums, when the majority of you don't get that doing that is not 'grinding out money' it's taking someone elses money. You can be sure the market economies are going to plummet with these prices. So you are left to grind out dungeons for 3k a run, until, at the very least, you get 8 million gil to put down on a house thats no bigger than your FREE inn room. No. There's just all sorts of wrong here.

Be content with it all you want, we're not.

[indira]

Relinquishing Land
In order to relinquish a plot of land, you must first remove the estate hall and all furnishings. Once the plot is completely vacant, it can be relinquished from the Housing menu. Only free company members with the requisite authorization can perform this action.
* Gil will not be refunded upon relinquishing a plot of land.
* From patch 2.2 onward, a free company will automatically relinquish its land if its estate is unused for a prolonged period of time.

i guess if you take a break from the game you screwed. its not clear if they mean in general or the owner.

[Giantbane]

It's a feature my sub money is helping to put in game. That's why we care. A rather LARGE feature at that, that has been previewed, pre-previewed, and hyped up for months on end. I want the content i'm helping to make.

I like how you say you don't need to grind it out, when the only way to purchase these houses is to do just that. "Oh , sell stuff on the market" Is always your ignorant answers on these forums, when the majority of you don't get that doing that is not 'grinding out money' it's taking someone elses money. You can be sure the market economies are going to plummet with these prices. So you are left to grind out dungeons for 3k a run, until, at the very least, you get 8 million gil to put down on a house thats no bigger than your FREE inn room. No. There's just all sorts of wrong here.

Be content with it all you want, we're not.

Hey Spaz, how about you look up like 7 posts?

I said the 8 mil for the lower end stuff is too much and should be reduced because it's much too high for your average casual FC (lowest starting price on Ultros). Applies to all the low-mid tier housing.

625 mil for the biggest plot on the most prime real estate on the legacy servers with the most outstanding gil floating around is legit because the price for that kind of thing is supposed to be absurd.

[LordSideKicks]

Almost everybody pay the same sub cost. Why players are being punished for rmt and gil buyers. Mind you alot if them are not caught yet. How I know the rmt logs shows ppl still buying everyday.

[Giantbane]

Almost everybody pay the same sub cost. Why players are being punished for rmt and gil buyers. Mind you alot if them are not caught yet. How I know the rmt logs shows ppl still buying everyday.

Even if you were to completely ignore RMT and gil buyers, Legacy worlds are going to have a lot more gil floating around since they've got all the money left over from 1.0 that exists in addition to all the new money that's been generated by monster kills, leves, quests, etc. Beyond that, more active worlds are going to have more money due to a larger and more active server pop generating new $$ every day. This is going to increase the cost of goods you can sell to other players since the money supply is higher (inflation). Everybody tends to end up with more as a result if they put any real effort into gil collection whatsoever.

Whether 625 mil is a reasonable goal for the upper crust of those worlds, I couldn't tell you. But whatever the amount is, it should be something your average player couldn't even imagine, since it's supposed to be an effort for even the 1% to put together.