WHAT?! 625 Million for first class House?

[Rowan_Moonkeeper]

Third, but in some regards the most important. THIS.IS.JUST.THE.COST.OF.THE.LAND. Not the house,not the building of the house, not the furniture, nor addons etc. SE designed FC housing to be a gil sink...we ALL KNEW THAT. But the real gil sink should be in the decorating and building of it. SE shouldn't be bankrupting us on the plot of land alone..then how is the building/furniture production ever going to help the economy.

Fifth. The is the ONLY thing in game atm a FC can actually work on as an entire group. Everything in game can be done in a 4 or 8 man static...everything. Housing, If even remotely affordable, it would have brought people together. Pride in ownership, FC and working together. Whether in a Small or Large home, the group would have a place to hang out, decorate, and call their own. A place to mark FC achievements and growth. Most FC's on most servers can't even afford the smallest grade 5 plot.

3rd & 5th points 100% agree. Imo, they did it backwards. Price land reasonably, so many can buy & we can begin gathering mats & building our guildhall where every member can contribute. That diversity lies in the members themselves. They can see a common goal & progress. SE missed the mark with this one.

Your 6th point has been slightly covered here & there, though still vague.

#1 Can't sell land
#2 Must remove everything, including tearing down house
#3 Don't forget, many furnishings & items placed might be lost trying to retrieve
#4 The items successfully retrieved can not be sold

TLDR: I too thought maybe we could start very small & later transition, but honestly for what? No point in burning ourselves twice. Losses would far out-weigh profitability.

[Rowan_Moonkeeper]

It's content im paying them to make. You bet your ass I better get access to it.

You wanna loot lock coil/crystal tower to one piece every 4 months? Whatever, i still get to see the content you were paid to develop.
You wanna make chocobo leveling retardly grindy? Whatever, i still get to at least get a chocobo to play with.
You wanna make housing out of reach of most of your players? Fuck that. Can't see content i'm paying you to make. THIS IS THE ISSUE.
You wanna do it right? Everyone gets to get a little house cheap, upgrading to massive mansions involves grinding company points/items/some gil for upgrades. Everyone sees the content, elitist grinders get to be elitest.

This is what i expect when i pay a sub.

THIS ^ EXACTLY!

[Reinheart]

land costs 325mil (my server)
House costs 9k-60k
Furniture costs 1k-15k

Something is wrong here... definitely wrong...

*edit I could be wrong on the house cost - http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/item/b9dad83aabb/ it's selling price so could be price you sell back to NPC

[Rowan_Moonkeeper]

Your subscription fee pays for about 1 tester working 1 hour to test the content that gets made. As such, not every piece of content and every line of code is going to be . *snip*

As long as it doesn't grant any real benefit to PvE, PvP or crafting why exactly do you care?

First subs cover much more than that dearie.

Second It is understandable it's not "explicitly for your benefit" BUT should be reasonable & attainable to all, which it's not, at this point. THIS IS ONLY A LOT! Get it? Be different IF house, or an expandable shack. lol

Thirdly Guild housing most definitely adds benefits. Perks to crafting & harvesting etc.

House itself, yes bust your behind for, utilize those hrs the devs poured into fencing, walls & other aesthetics, but not on a silly lot.

[Xairos]

land costs 325mil (my server)
House costs 9k-60k
Furniture costs 1k-15k

Something is wrong here... definitely wrong...



*edit I could be wrong on the house cost - http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/b9dad83aabb/ it's selling price so could be price you sell back to NPC

Yeah it says a Vanya Robe is 163 gil. it's late though...and we are all worn out.

[Giantbane]

First subs cover much more than that dearie.

Oh, you're right, I'm sorry. I'm sure that if you add up all the of the money that you've spent thus far on this game, that you've personally covered a sizable portion of their multi-million dollar development costs ...

Second It is understandable it's not "explicitly for your benefit" BUT should be reasonable & attainable to all, which it's not, at this point. THIS IS ONLY A LOT! Get it? Be different IF house, or an expandable shack. lol

Thirdly Guild housing most definitely adds benefits. Perks to crafting & harvesting etc.

House itself, yes bust your behind for, utilize those hrs the devs poured into fencing, walls & other aesthetics, but not on a silly lot.

I'm talking about the most expensive houses (look at the title of the thread, the ones that cost $625mil). There should not be many, they should be stupid expensive and everybody shouldn't have access to one. If every FC could get a giant mansion, there wouldn't be much prestige to owning one.

On the other hand (as I said above and below the post you quote) that I think the low to mid end housing units are overpriced. Those prices are unfair to smaller, more casual FCs and the prices should probably be lowered drastically (somewhat dependent on the ability to make $$ with the new content).

[Gumbercules]

The prices are extremely steep I will not argue that, I will say that this is probably something they will monitor closely. I am guessing the alternative would have been to "underestimate" the amount of gil actively floating around and lead to "everything" selling out within a day. (wont argue if this is bad or not, since it will be a matter of perspective) On that note though the cost for the big houses as is their intention to be FC headquarters should still be a considerable hurdle, with medium being a "group effort" and small being the few friends pooling together standard (this I would prolly still keep at the 8 -20 mill marker) These are also projections I am making based on the current intention also, as in as their intended use for FC headquarters.

I will admit that it does feel discouraging to read those prices though, but as i said lets hope they closely monitor the situation. On another thread someone posted how it would be shortsighted to develop content which requires so much time and effort for 1% of the population and I am sure SE is aware of this too. (not to mention how irrelevant it would be for crafters if it is not enjoyed by more)

[Dashuto]

Yoshi just stated on the stream that he believes players can afford the housing with 3 months of diligent farming. That they will monitor the economy of legacy servers for a time and may eventually make adjustments depending on the situation.

[Linadae]

In before all hell breaks loose...

[Pr0c3ss0r]

Some account got temp ban for having 10m+, and now is 625m for house, ahahaa lulz!!!!