Allagan lv95 no stat change means?

[ispano]

Because it's unclear?

"The weapons will only have their item level increase by five and the stats will not be changed".

Going only by that information regarding the weapons, it tells us that the weapon's stats (DMG/AA/STR/INT/DEX/etc.) all remain the same, as in +10 will still be +10 despite the weapon having a higher item level since no mention was made about increasing the parameters of the stat. Should it be infered that the parameters will change due to the ilvl increase? It should but more clarity was needed in the answer regarding weapons so as to not have people assume. The bit about armor changes on the other hand was fine however part of the confusion has to deal with nomenclature and people not being on the same page with the reps as far was what stats refers to specifically.

It's because they used the word "change". You now think ANYTHING is a change(which is true technically), except that change means to change it to something else. Not more of the SAME. People see that and immediately jump on the "that makes no sense" wagon. Instead of thinking to themselves that BECAUSE it makes no sense, they are interpreting wrong.

[Kevee]

It's because they used the word "change". You now think ANYTHING is a change(which is true technically), except that change means to change it to something else. Not more of the SAME. People see that and immediately jump on the "that makes no sense" wagon. Instead of thinking to themselves that BECAUSE it makes no sense, they are interpreting wrong.

Going from 1 to 2 is a change. 1 is not the same as 2.

[ispano]

Going from 1 to 2 is a change. 1 is not the same as 2.

But going from 1 to 2 is also an increase. You can use different words to indicate different meanings. You wouldn't use the word increase to indicate Crit changing to Determination. So, when you saw what they said, why didn't you ask yourself which it would be if they said only the ilvl was increasing? Why would the ilvl go up, but not the stats, when the quantity of stats on an item are based on the ilvl?

[Kevee]

But going from 1 to 2 is also an increase. You can use different words to indicate different meanings. You wouldn't use the word increase to indicate Crit changing to Determination. So, when you saw what they said, why didn't you ask yourself which it would be if they said only the ilvl was increasing? Why would the ilvl go up, but not the stats, when the quantity of stats on an item are based on the ilvl?

1) I was merely pointing out how you were wrong.
2) It was a poor choice of words for either Yoshida, or the translator.
3) iLVL only dictates stat caps, not the literal amount of stats.

[ispano]

1) I was merely pointing out how you were wrong.
2) It was a poor choice of words for either Yoshida, or the translator.
3) iLVL only dictates stat caps, not the literal amount of stats.

1) Except I really wasn't. When you think of something changing, what's more logical, changing to something else or increasing/decreasing? While both can apply, one is more logical.
2) If it's a poor choice of words, then how come many of us understood it immediately?
3) Actually, outside of NQ crafted gear. The amount of a given stat on an item is linked to the ilvl. And there's also likely a formula to determine the NQ stats based on ilvl as well.

[Kevee]

1) Except I really wasn't. When you think of something changing, what's more logical, changing to something else or increasing/decreasing? While both can apply, one is more logical.
2) If it's a poor choice of words, then how come many of us understood it immediately?
3) Actually, outside of NQ crafted gear. The amount of a given stat on an item is linked to the ilvl. And there's also likely a formula to determine the NQ stats based on ilvl as well.

1) You are. 1 to 2 is still a change. Period. "But it's an increase/decrease." That's a change. Don't be arrogant.
2) No, you inferred with something that agreed with your own bias.
3) No, it isn't. iLVL determines caps, it's just a "coincidence" that they put dungeon green/blue/etc gear at the caps.

[Marzapan]

1) You are. 1 to 2 is still a change. Period. "But it's an increase/decrease." That's a change. Don't be arrogant.
2) No, you inferred with something that agreed with your own bias.
3) No, it isn't. iLVL determines caps, it's just a "coincidence" that they put dungeon green/blue/etc gear at the caps.

Good thing pvp is comming out so you 2 can settle this... is it cross server?

[Seirra_Lanzce]

snip.

Mel and me may have come a bit awkward where Mel can't take a hit, but i'm siding with Mel here.

Increase is a form of word used here to differenate between changing and increase, yes both are fall into same context, but what is being used here is taht They are not changing the stats of STR -> DEX they are instead increasing the Paramaters of the Stats instead. Thus the increase of ilvl.

Also you might want to look up Yoshi's intake on iLevel and why is both important to players & the Devs, is to differenate the stats that are upper level than the lower tiers.

Which means here increasing the iLevels of Allagan Weapons from 90 to 95, the stats paramaters also increase.