melee dps buffs + bard nerf = cumulative effect too much?

[Dyne_Fellpool]

I realize we'll just have to wait and see, but...

With DRG and PGL buffs coming (10%?) AND a BRD nerf, I'm worried that the cumulative effect from both of these will result in BRDs really being outperformed badly
by other classes in their key role, which is DPS in this game.

[bayz]

Bard is suppose to be support from the first time.and its suppose to be outperformed by other dps class when it comes to dps.they just adjust it to the right track.with all the adjustment which we dont really know yet.we should stop crying like a kid.

[Yiikes]

Bard is suppose to be support from the first time.and its suppose to be outperformed by other dps class when it comes to dps.they just adjust it to the right track.with all the adjustment which we dont really know yet.we should stop crying like a kid.

Did you say the same thing to those "crying like a kid" about BARD OP CAN DPS AND MOVE!!!11!!!! NERF FOR THE LOVE OF GAAAAWD!!!!!11

[WiseWolfHolo]

Bard is suppose to be support from the first time.and its suppose to be outperformed by other dps class when it comes to dps.they just adjust it to the right track.with all the adjustment which we dont really know yet.we should stop crying like a kid.

So drgs r just as bad in the game as the forums. Bottom line is bard dps cannot come close right now to where the smart and talented drg players are, bards fall 220ish while pro monks and drgs r near 270. The nerf is completely to cater to the casual QQ community that think of themselves before the group. Ultimately who cares who does more damage as a dps, you are a team start acting like one. Stop having some god mode complex where I must have the highest dps numbers in the game because from all the QQ it is from melee dps not knowing how to play their class and have some made up idea that omg a bard is beating me in dps so not right.
Now more on topic, the problem I see with the nerf is that really you do not even need a bard for anything, it makes it convenient but ultimately pally, monk or selene can purely remove bard from the picture if its already low dps gets cut.

[Mister-Wonderful]

So drgs r just as bad in the game as the forums. Bottom line is bard dps cannot come close right now to where the smart and talented drg players are, bards fall 220ish while pro monks and drgs r near 270. The nerf is completely to cater to the casual QQ community that think of themselves before the group. Ultimately who cares who does more damage as a dps, you are a team start acting like one. Stop having some god mode complex where I must have the highest dps numbers in the game because from all the QQ it is from melee dps not knowing how to play their class and have some made up idea that omg a bard is beating me in dps so not right.
Now more on topic, the problem I see with the nerf is that really you do not even need a bard for anything, it makes it convenient but ultimately pally, monk or selene can purely remove bard from the picture if its already low dps gets cut.

You have not met a good bard then. Bard easily pushes past most any dps when equally geared, especially in burst damage due to all the buffs to stack.

Why do people get offended and bash others like this person when they know nothing themselves?

[Allyrion]

You have not met a good bard then. Bard easily pushes past most any dps when equally geared, especially in burst damage due to all the buffs to stack.

Why do people get offended and bash others like this person when they know nothing themselves?

Not picking a side in this, but your argument is "Your anecdotal evidence doesn't match my anecdotal evidence so you must be misinformed or ignorant."

[Leon_Stormrage]

You have not met a good bard then. Bard easily pushes past most any dps when equally geared, especially in burst damage due to all the buffs to stack.

Why do people get offended and bash others like this person when they know nothing themselves?

Emmm no.
A good bard and a bad one have the same average damage because we don't have one static rotation, so you can have mistakes and it is not going to punish us so much, the problem is that a bad dragoon or monk will be severely punished for mistakes so a bard can completely outdps a bad melee dps. BUT a good one always is about 30-40 points above a Bard equally geared.
The good meless will be godlike when the patch go live, I am happy because the one in my group is really good :3

[Dyne_Fellpool]

This is not some other game you are clearly thinking of. There are no pure "support" classes in FFXIV:ARR. There are 3 roles: dps, tank, and healer. Every class has utility of some kind.
Nobody is crying like a kid, stop being a douche.

[MomoOG]

This is not some other game you are clearly thinking of. There are no pure "support" classes in FFXIV:ARR. There are 3 roles: dps, tank, and healer. Every class has utility of some kind.
Nobody is crying like a kid, stop being a douche.

Except Bards "utility" abiltiies are far superior to every other dps in the game.

[bayz]

If u are not crying because u scare not going to get pick in coil.why u post this then?we have so many similar thread like this out there.a bard will still need for their utility.they just make it so a group now will pick more melee then stacking more bard.