I hate dungeons....

[Legion88]

Can't tell if your being serious.

- Multiplayer means being present or playing with other players, does not mean in a group or forced grouping
- The fact you are in the same place as another player makes it multiplayer

there is a different between multi player games and multiplayer games, lost in the many acronyms floating around.
multi player game: game with many people playing the game in an shared overworld without any forced relation to each other. Or for easy to say a game with many players.
multiplayer game: game with many people playing together or against each other in groups or teams for an defined goal. Or for easy to say a team game.

FFXIV has a multi player part, like the overwolrd and many of that stuff, and a multiplayer part, like Dungeons, PvP, Raids, Trials.
I can fully understand that people hate it if they enjoy the first and are being forced into the later to progress the first.

[Risvertasashi]

MP groups are GREAT if you like that sort of stuff or have enough known players you can group with, but time and time again it's just stress filled sessions having to deal with inconsiderate people, who care less about coordination or having fun and instead revel in being jerks. Being forced to group just to play the game story is nuts. It's maddening since Square assumes they can just do this. Why even do this in the first place, why not do what other MMOs do and let MP be voluntary?

You... revived a nearly 5 year old thread for this?

Well, honest and blunt advice: You need run MSQ group content exactly once, and once only. Optional dungeons you can skip. And you can never return to the MSQ ones if you don't want to. After that, you can avoid group instances and effectively play the entire game solo.

If you really can't tolerate such a small amount of group play then... yes, the game probably isn't for you.

[oboboli]

No the post is serious, I never liked MP groups, never liked them due to griefing and similar stuff that seemed to become the norm more and more. I play games to enjoy the gameworld, story and gameplay, the challenge. I DO have a damn good time playing with other players as impromptu encounters like ESO does things, but hate structured groups where human egos and stuff get in the way. I have played Elder Scrolls Online since it came out, been a sub member for most of that time, loved the game and actually loved the multiplayer PVP when you one person in an army (basically), best MP experience I have had. I just don't see why FFXIV had to do this, why make players do all these random group dungeons...none of the other MMOs listed above did. GW, GW2, RIFT and ESO don't do this.

[oboboli]

[QUOTE=Risvertasashi;4583442]You... revived a nearly 5 year old thread for this?

...You need run MSQ group content exactly once, and once only. Optional dungeons you can skip. And you can never return to the MSQ ones if you don't want to. /QUOTE]

From what I have read, to get the mount you must play the main story quest to Lvl 30, doing that has already ran me through 3 MP dungeons.

I found this post linked below, if it's wrong please let me know..thanks.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/678...quest-dungeons

[oboboli]

Never meant to be anything like that. I was just being honest, how is that trolling? Take care my friend, this discussion was a great example IMHO. C-Ya!

[Frizze]

Well, honest and blunt advice: You need run MSQ group content exactly once, and once only. Optional dungeons you can skip. And you can never return to the MSQ ones if you don't want to.

Ill give an answer just incase someone decides to necro this thread again in another 5 years. The way this game is designed, in order to progress through the story and see all of the world the game will repeatedly put you into the position of having to clear instanced content(most of which involve some fighting). There are many instances you complete solo(some with the help of NPCs), but there are also dungeons and trials you need to clear. If you are far above the level of the dungeon or trial it is possible to clear many of them solo, but most people will clear these by joining groups. You can go with friends, or the game has a built-in match making system to put you with random players to complete your goals. While you must clear all the required instances to continue the story(and unlock more parts of the world), you only need to do each of them once. Once youve cleared a dungeon(or whatever) you dont have to go back unless you want to, and the game has many optional instances(more dungeons, trials, raids, etc) that you never even have to go near if they dont interest you. As of the current patch(4.2) there are 26 dungeons required to complete the story(ranging from level 15-70, 11 in the base game, 9 in the first expansion, and 6 so far in the second), and 21* trials to get to the same spot(10 in the base game plus you have to do 3 re-fights that i counted but arent really anything new, 4 in the first expansion with one more re-fight and 3 so far in the second).

So if being put in a position to group with others 24 times over the course of 50 levels and 285 main storyline quests(this is of course only counting the required story quests, not the hundreds of extra side quests) in the base game is too much for you - and 47 total over 70 levels and 545 quests so far counting expansions - then yes this is unfortunately probly not the game for you.

[oboboli]

Frizze...THANKS so much for taking the time to post. Sincerely appreciated. I am going to try to stick with it, hopefully to get through the Story so I can fully enjoy the game. I just have always had a phobia about group MP gameplay, it's my problem that I avoid it but I was annoyed that to simply complete the story I had to group so often in FFXIV. It doesn't have to do with anything other than that. I have been in groups that had players that ruined the preferred friendly gameplay that should be what groups are all about and since then always avoid it, thus I normally solo all I can, even group tasks/dungeons if possible. MP play when it's open world impromptu co-op or with friends I enjoy, but forced groups with random people is just not fun for me. I always try to reach out, thanking group members, making the time spend fun, but one uber-ego grump can be a pain. Again THANKS so much, this is pretty much what I gleaned so far but your explanation was excellent. Take care

[NephthysVasudan]

I just have always had a phobia about group MP gameplay, it's my problem that I avoid it but I was annoyed that to simply complete the story I had to group so often in FFXIV.

This game is a Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game.

There is very little to literally no solo content in this game.
Save but job quests and the small yet numerous main scenario quest/side quest line.
Ok....gathering is a solo task. Crafting (Ignoring FC workshop projects) is solo. But still - all impact other players in some form or fashion.

The whole core of this game is dungeon running/trial combat/raids/savage content/ultimate content/ and of course PVP.

The best content is gated with multiplayer content. You really cannot...will not *at least anything worthwhile right now* solo this content. In many cases 1 player isn't enough. Yes you could do most dungeons un-synched - but its content designed to be run at a specific level - its expected to be a little funny and awkward at best.

That said....if you don't consider yourself fully warned/educated as to what your walking in too...then you should turn around.

If your willing to continue adventuring forward and onward...your welcome to contact me to help alleviate your phobia.

I too don't like the random encounters and peer pressure that comes with the speed-runners/and trouble makers - but it is a way of life and its how I find great people who have helped me get where to I am today.

I still don't believe your genuine in your claims...and that this is a glorified troll - but I won't turn down a request for help regardless....because this could be just an overstated miscommunication on your part. You did however "necro" a thread and just out of the blue started making baseless accusations that SE is doing a foolish thing with "forced multiplayer" instances in a game that is specifically designed to be multiplayer. That's just crazy talk.

As we are on the same server - you are welcome to ping me if you need help.

Good luck regardless...just be prepared to face the fact this is a multiplayer game....through and through. Don't accuse SE for doing the one thing they said they do...that's just foolish.

Word of advise....learn to use party finder....learn it well. You will need to make friends. It will help you get the content cleared easier. Since you have a phobia about this sort of thing. You'd best start adapting. There are plenty of final fantasy games out there that are single player. No one said you had to play this one. If you invested money into it...then at least give it the shot it deserves. It is worth it...in my opinion.

[Akor]

blablabla, this is an MMORPG not single player game. You dont need to run dungeons if u dont like them, after u get your msq done, u dont need to run any dungeons to buy materials for crafting, just buy the mats off from MB. If u feel this isnt your game mod, than move on and play other games. Play BDO you dont need to run dungeons, you can life skill till rest of your life, you only need kill mobs for gathering and processe them for crafting materials.

[Rufalus]

It's fine to enjoy quests, exploring, gathering, etc but dislike dungeons. It's a valid opinion. It always seems to trigger dozens of these replies "this is an mmo. m is multiplayer. go play a different game." We don't need to be this dismissive of people. Yes there is a linear progression in this game. At some points you're asked to do a certain dungeon once ever, then you continue onward to more solo stuff.

I agree that MMOs should be very open with multiple ways to progress. Lots of people dislike the msq for various reasons like forced grouping, questing, cutscenes, etc. People join MMOs for various reasons and there may be certain kinds of content they are not interested in. FF XIV was designed with that msq backbone being mandatory and it would be difficult to change.

People are less hostile once you have your footing and are not slowing them down. It's a shame how some new players are treated but if you can get past the hurdles there's a great experience waiting.