PVP - Ideas & Expectations!!

[Demacia]

I don't really need a PvP system for anything but opinions in this matter are pretty useless since SE hasn't mentioned the PvP in a LOoooOOooNg time which is probably their way of saying "yup we made promises but can you just wait 2 more years until we get it done?"

Personally I like rpgs and FF titles because I'll never have enough time to play a game to survive a PvP match in any genre and I like to relax by playing a very long slow paced game. (yeah I just had to say that because it'll probably annoy the hell out of someone who thinks headshotting a n00b is the holy grail of videogaming)

"Headshotting a n00b" is not what PvP is about. Outsmarting a living opponent, making comebacks, learning new strategies, etc. It's why people play fighting games competitively, it's why people play RTS competitively, it's why people like PvP. Don't get me wrong I love PvE but if I'm looking for a real challenge AI does not cut it like a human being. An NPC monster in an MMO is a challenge because he's probably much stronger than you, has a massive HP pool, and a some random abilities that hit everyone within a one mile radius for half their HP while inflicting a variety of status effects. A HUMAN opponent in an MMO only has access to the same resources that you do, so the only way you can beat them is by figuring them out and outsmarting. It doesn't get old like fighting the same boss 100x in a row does.

[Punxsutawney]

Kaboro, can you name the 2 biggest mmos right now? They would be wow and aion, pvp based games. You are completely wrong in you statement.

[Xquiel]

I hope SE think like you!!

[Arcell]

Duels, yes. Open world, no-restrictions PvP absolutely not. I'm fine with PvP as long as there is no ganking and no griefing. I remember trying to do quests in certain areas in Aion and it was downright impossible some days. Certain players would hang out in specific areas and never leave, just griefing people trying to actually progress.

Structured, consensual PvP I am 100% okay with and I even welcome it. I prefer group PvP personally, sieges were actually some of the most fun I had while playing Aion. Duels I'm perfectly fine with too, agreeing to fight under certain terms.

[Synfrag]

Duels, yes. Open world, no-restrictions PvP absolutely not. I'm fine with PvP as long as there is no ganking and no griefing. I remember trying to do quests in certain areas in Aion and it was downright impossible some days. Certain players would hang out in specific areas and never leave, just griefing people trying to actually progress.

Structured, consensual PvP I am 100% okay with and I even welcome it. I prefer group PvP personally, sieges were actually some of the most fun I had while playing Aion. Duels I'm perfectly fine with too, agreeing to fight under certain terms.

I started the day of launch after playing beta in Aion so I was 50 before most and had already picked up PvP experience so I didn't really fall victim to it in say Eltnen or Heiron. I certainly dished it out in Morehiem & Beluslan though. It was epic fun for us. Our legion would have drunken rifting night every Friday during which we usually just ended up giving AP to the inhabitants. It was funny, there were comments on our profile pages saying things like "Only go after him on Friday night, other days of the week run" until NC axed commenting. I digress.

I agree with you. Unrestricted open world PvP would be very bad for FF playerbase. I like the idea of a open zone PvP though. Like Aion's Abyss but with no quests, instances, dungeons or critical need to be in that zone. Some time killers would be cool maybe like optional levequests or mobs that could be farmed for usable materials. NOT! Critical items like, say Blood Stains for any other Aion players.

[Arcell]

I'd be open to a no restrictions PvP zone as long as, like you said, there was nothing critical there that you needed to have to progress. Nothing is more frustrating than trying to get something done only to have your progress come to a screeching halt because of a few dicks who feel like griefing people.

[Ichi]

I'm sure there will be no ganking, at least I can tell from just this thread. I think the best thing would be a /duel option personally I like pvp to see if my build can beat my friends builds and /duel is great for this.

In XI you had to do a lot of work just to duel your friends, so I never pvped hardly. All other pvp I don't mind as long as it's not reward motivated, or the rewards aren't unique to just pvp, otherwise it'd be almost like you had to pvp to fulfill other basic motivations of an mmorpg (like gear attainment to further customize your char). Before anyone gets upset about this think about it there are lots of things they could reward you that wouldn't force others to pvp, like guildmarks, gil, or what about if you could take some of your opponents anima for winning, along with a ranking board.

As for another idea that I think is pretty unique, they should have a tower type game where you can go in solo or in a party and it can have many stages (possibly infinite) and you see how far your group can get and you can sp that way or something while the top groups or players of the tower are posted in game for fun.

It's not directly pvp but it creates a sense of competition that some might even call a PvEers PvP.

[Dizmo]

This game's engine and server lag is too poor for PVP.

[Greencactaur]

Arena please thanks.

[Sweetheart]

I found one great comment about pvp in mmos I thought I will share ;D

"Who cares if a game has pvp balance? Balance in mmo pvp is one of the dumbest things.

I'm a wizard who can call down demons and hellfire to melt my enemies. You're a plucky young warrior with a broadsword. Of course its fscking imbalanced!

Or... I'm a drooling idiot who keyboard turns and you memorized sun tzu, have the latest and greatest gaming mouse and macro keyboard. Again, it's going to be imbalanced.

You want balance in your pvp, play with your xbox."