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  1. #11
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    Earnhardt's Avatar
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    Earnhardt Fairhonor
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    We've had this happen on Twintania several times now. When the tank runs in to engage Twintania will automatically aggro to whoever has a name starting with 'A' rather than the tank.
    Been running Twintania for a long time now as the main tank, Both Solo tanking her and using 2 tanks. And in Neither case in any attempts or pulls did Twintania or her Dragon pets Agro anyone other than the initial body puller, But 2 things here worry me ...How do people get to turn 5 lol without knowing how the games agro system works and avoid this issue all together.. NEVER cast anything on a tank as he is pulling nor do you use any buffs or spells until he has them rounded up from the initial pull agro. And 2 for the person worrying about missing shield lob... You shouldn't really be in turn 5 if you don't have the accuracy to do it without worry. And if you do decide to go in under geared ...well then you get what you get for taking risks.
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  2. #12
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    Yagyu Hobo
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by JagerForrester View Post
    Sure, you "could" code the mobs to initially attack in alphabetical order, but it's strategically idiotic. I need to see evidence, like a YouTube video, the source code, or an answer from the author of the code.
    Basically they needed to program in "tie-breakers" into their tables and one way to achieve is to tie it to something unique... such as the character name or CharID.

    Primary Sort = Aggro
    Tie Breaker = Char name

    Basically they need to change their tie breaker to something that makes more sense but still is something unique. Maybe change to the following:

    Primary Sort = Aggro
    1st tie breaker = Highest HP
    2nd tie breaker = Char name
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  3. #13
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    Yagyu Hobo
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Earnhardt View Post
    Been running Twintania for a long time now as the main tank, Both Solo tanking her and using 2 tanks. And in Neither case in any attempts or pulls did Twintania or her Dragon pets Agro anyone other than the initial body puller, But 2 things here worry me ...How do people get to turn 5 lol without knowing how the games agro system works and avoid this issue all together.. NEVER cast anything on a tank as he is pulling nor do you use any buffs or spells until he has them rounded up from the initial pull agro. And 2 for the person worrying about missing shield lob... You shouldn't really be in turn 5 if you don't have the accuracy to do it without worry. And if you do decide to go in under geared ...well then you get what you get for taking risks.
    This is a discussion on their choice of choosing character names as a way to tie break when aggro values are equal (AKA at the start of a pull for a fight) Seeing as how your char names initial are E.F it would be highly plausible you don't see this issue as you have the lowest alphabetical last name in your group.
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  4. #14
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    Calyanare Vendaurel
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    See, I'm skeptical about the name thing. Not because I haven't seen it happen, because I have, but the most prominent times it happened, the tanks (2 different ones) had last names starting with A (V.A. and K.A. were the first letters of their names, respectively). You can see my character name in the sidebar (C.V., for the lazy), and yes, sometimes I'm the one who gets that momentary aggro first. But very consistently, on the first boss in WP, with the V.A. guy tanking, a BRD with names starting E.J. would get first aggro.

    I guess maybe if they add together or average the first two letters, what I've seen would make sense... Except in Twintania it's usually me getting this first aggro if anyone gets it, and not the other healer L.A. or the BLM B.B., so I have no idea what's going on.
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    Last edited by Calyanare; 12-14-2013 at 08:45 AM.

  5. #15
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    Ri_ri's Avatar
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    I think I've seen it happen, always thought it was weird that sometimes the mobs simply ignore whoever entered in aggro range and ran towards someone else.
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  6. #16
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    Doctor Pepper
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hobo View Post
    It's popping up as an issue for people during Turn 5. Simply because your body pulling for 1 sec before your in shield lob range.... and then if shield lob misses it will still follow it's alphabetical default aggro sort.
    Haha didn't really think of that because our tanks names start with A and B I suppose. Thanks for the verification.
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  7. #17
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    I sometimes noticed that on turn 4 when no one is pulling and you just wait for the spiders to come to you, they will usually go for me (B) despite many members being closer to them.
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