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    You're right, a multimillion dollar game shouldn't have to utilize one of the most boasted about features in the game. It's totally fair that people with alternate characters have an advantage over somebody leveling multiple jobs on the same character as intended by the armory system. It's wonderful that several people in FCs are being benched because their FC members who already have a 8 man static can't run the content again to help them out and that you don't get to experience a different form of gameplay for the best content in the game without making an additional character more than once a week.

    Are you serious with this crap? If you don't know why people are complaining then you're just being ignorant. It's one thing to disagree, it's another to tell people they shouldn't play because they don't think the game is perfect when it's not. Maybe we should stop giving them feedback all together, I'm sure they'll figure out everything on their own. Right..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    Visited general discussion for the first time today and all I see is people complaining about loot lockout and weekly lockouts. Better call the cops, maybe they can take SE's gun away from your heads requiring your subscription.

    This just in, if you don't enjoy the game you don't have to play it!
    What makes you think that because we dislike loot lockouts on CT means we hate the entire game? That would be as silly as us telling you because you dislike people discussing their views on things maybe you should cancel your internet. None of us are holding a "gun" to your head making you pay your bills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makado View Post
    This just in: if you enjoy playing ARR, you are obviously a minority playerbase who "can only possibly be blindly proclaiming SE as lord and savioir" and is not ACTUALLY, enjoying their experience, just living in a fantasy.
    What is childish dribble is constant complaining about a system you dislike but for some reason continue to pay for and play. Reminds me of little kids who cant make an easy decision, which for these people should obviously be to quit and move on. I would of course ask for it without tomatoes by the way, but we aren't talking a 1 minute sandwich ingredient change.
    If you are discussing the quality of this restaurant while eating there, and find the service horrendous, then you should obviously quit coming to this place and move on.
    Nevermind that you love the food, or it's convenient since it's so close to your workplace, or that your friends are regularly meeting there, or whatever other reason you have for coming to that place. Stating that something about the place sucks while still paying for your food? It's just childish dribble.
    Obviously.
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    We love the game, that's not the problem. The problem is we don't like SE telling us we can't do that when that's all we want to do because that's what we love about the game.
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    If you don't speak up for what you dislike, it won't be changed. The forums are currently full of the same threads on like three topics.
    The devs are much more likely to recognize these are issues than if there was only a single thread with no other complaints.
    It's obvious that many players are upset and if SE wants to be a good company, they'll recognize this and fix future content to make the players happy.
    It's wrong of them to have made the armoury system one of their main selling points at release, and then make it impossible to play all those characters at end game; and then for mid tier, too.

    I don't know why people keep encouraging mass amounts of players to quit funding a game they also play any time they raise their concerns. You do realize that if everybody left over being upset over one thing, they'd probably just turn off servers since no one was playing, right?
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    Friend showed me this, http://www.cracked.com/article_20727...-to-crash.html good read. My point being is that is SE going to create or have anything thrive by following what has been successful in the past or will they get more from doing something more "creative".

    That and what's the point of making this thread, what are you getting out of this, and is this a poor attempt at trolling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankysorc View Post
    I don't know why people keep encouraging mass amounts of players to quit funding a game they also play any time they raise their concerns. You do realize that if everybody left over being upset over one thing, they'd probably just turn off servers since no one was playing, right?
    Because a business thrives off the income it brings in. By voting with your wallet, you show that a business decision is not in the best interest of it consumers, causing either a change in policy, or a shut down of the game. Any smart business realizes the smarter move and changes policy to meet the demand of its consumers or a suitable middle ground. Or it fails. Ask Microsoft how their Xbox One is doing.

    Why do you think WoW has been running all these years?

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    It's wonderful that several people in FCs are being benched because their FC members who already have a 8 man static can't run the content again to help them out and that you don't get to experience a different form of gameplay for the best content in the game without making an additional character more than once a week.
    This is a choice your static and FC has made. There is nothing to stop you from recruiting people and splitting your static for a couple weeks to get some of your FC members coil experience. I don't like lockouts either, but the least you can do is make a better effort to bring in your FC instead of blaming everything on SE. Also, if other people want to get into coil, there are always pugs, or they can leave FC and go to one that is building a coil group. So many options, it's a shame you pigeon hole your FC into only running a set static and leaving people behind.

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    You're missing the point completely. What I am saying is that once I finish coil once for the week I am unable to help my FC friends who haven't do the same. Regardless of whether we're in a static or not that makes no difference since you still can't help your friends once locked out. Basically I am forced to pick 7 people out of my entire FC to do the best content in the game with per week. I should be able to help all my friends, not forced to choose 7 of them to help for the entire week.
    Post locked again.

    I do understand what you are saying. But given the fact that the limitation is here, it is in place, and for the time being, not going anywhere, what have you done to help your FC? I would like to see at least a CT style lockout so you could run it all you want and only loot once, but that isn't the case right now. Rather than doing what you can to work with the system, you blame SE and stick to your static.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crankysorc View Post
    Turning off your sub without complaining is not good 'voting', as it doesn't let the company know for sure why so many people are unsubbing. Maybe they migrated to a new game, maybe they can't afford it anymore because holidays, maybe there's something players think are terribly wrong.
    If the game continues to add content players are unhappy with, even after continuously bringing it up, I'm sure many players will unsub and SE would have a good idea of the reasoning behind it.
    SE knows exactly what we are complaining about. They are *trying* to find a middle ground for everyone without letting the flood gates go. Hence the myth cap increase. They have the required analytics and they can also see from the forums how unhappy people are about lockouts, but if people keep paying each month, there is no reason to change it and the system stays the same.
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    Last edited by C-croft; 12-14-2013 at 08:53 AM.

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    Complain about people complaining in your own post

    thats bound to make them stop :P
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    Their just trying to get a change by whining about it constantly is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    This is a choice your static and FC has made. There is nothing to stop you from recruiting people and splitting your static for a couple weeks to get some of your FC members coil experience. I don't like lockouts either, but the least you can do is make a better effort to bring in your FC instead of blaming everything on SE. Also, if other people want to get into coil, there are always pugs, or they can leave FC and go to one that is building a coil group. So many options, it's a shame you pigeon hole your FC into only running a set static and leaving people behind.
    You're missing the point completely. What I am saying is that once I finish coil once for the week I am unable to help my FC friends who haven't do the same. Regardless of whether we're in a static or not that makes no difference since you still can't help your friends once locked out. Basically I am forced to pick 7 people out of my entire FC to do the best content in the game with per week. I should be able to help all my friends, not forced to choose 7 of them to help for the entire week.
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