Thread: Running Windows 8 / 8.1 and FFXIV

Originally Posted by C-croft

Microsoft wants to go star trek with their OS

Oh man I would pay good money for my PC to have Majel Barrett's voice, and not those crappy wav files for windows events!

I appreciate all the comments on 8.1, I might have to give it a try.

I'm currently using START8 to give me back my Win7 start style menu.

Originally Posted by Dozer

Oh man I would pay good money for my PC to have Majel Barrett's voice, and not those crappy wav files for windows events!

If you have the sound files its very easy to do, just time consuming. I have mine set like FFVII, my warning sound is the chocobo "wark" lol.

Originally Posted by C-croft

Is it just like the Win7 menu? I tried the others because my dad is technologically challenged and 'needed' his start menu back.

Its almost like 7. START8 has a free 30 trial and comes with a few different features that helps return the feel of Win7. I think its about $5 to purchase the app.

Was playing on Win7 on my previous PC but it finally died (fixed and gave to my son) and I have a new PC with Win 8.1. The User Interface for the windows original setting was horrible... I hate it lol, but with 8.1 startup to desktop and other tweaks to replace the start button to work like previous Windows it's working smoothly for me.

I haven't any win 8.1 related issue with XIV so far.
I installed FFXIV on SSD in my old PC and on the new machine I just moved the SSD, downloaded the client, chose the same directory as the SSD and it didn't even need to update the game. It worked right away.
Only thing to remember is to make sure to backup your user settings, although we'll have a tool in 2.1 that will make this process easier, I had to copy the user data folder and it loaded all my hud layout, hotbar settings.

Originally Posted by Leash

Anyone running FFXIV on Win 8.1? Is it better? Does it handle well?

Also, does know how to stop that stupid Win App Menu from popping up randomly while in gameplay on Win8?

I use Windows 8.1 and it works great for pretty much everything. I highly recommend you google and install "Classicshell" which will install a windows 7 style start menu, that in my opinion has more functionality than the real start menu. You can also disable active corners, which can be annoying for some, through the classicshell settings. With W8 you will get a start button with a shell icon, upgrading to 8.1 and reinstalling classicshell will give you a start button with the windows logo (if that matters to you).

Originally Posted by Leash

Anyone running FFXIV on Win 8.1? Is it better? Does it handle well?

Also, does know how to stop that stupid Win App Menu from popping up randomly while in gameplay on Win8?

Windows 8 is an upgrade from Windows 7 system-wise. 8 has better memory management, faster turn-on/shutdown speed, better network management and a bunch of tweaks that were not possible in Windows 7 that benefits the systems overall. The difference is not that huge, but it is there. Modern video games will most likely run slightly better on Windows 8 than on Windows 7. It will be more or less noticeable with "weaker" systems. That's the theory behind it. In practice, every computer is different, so the results will differ from a computer to another.


That said, Windows 8.1 is like a service-pack (with a fancier name and more drastic changes). It brings major updates to Windows 8 features, notably the Windows search, more customization for the App Menu and the return of a start button (but not the start menu, which Microsoft announced will be available for Windows 8 around 2015 for the next major update). If you have Windows 8, going for 8.1 is strongly recommended.

I used Windows 8.1 preview version, which didn't affect my applications/files, but going from 8.1 preview to 8.1 release forced me to re-install Windows (thus losing all application installed, yet keeping the files). I am not sure of the effects of going from 8 to 8.1 release.

For my own system and FFXIV:ARR, I can say it worked as well in Windows 8 and Windows 8.1.

For the App Menu popping during gameplay, my guess is that you press the Windows Key (the key in between Ctrl and Alt), which is a shortcut to the App Menu. That or if you still have Windows 8, if you click on the lower left corner of the monitor, it triggers the App Menu as if you had clicked there. With Windows 8.1, you no longer have the lower corner issue, since the start button is back. I can grantee though that Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 do not go into the App Menu by themselves without user interaction. It is highly probable that you do something "wrong" while playing, which trigger the App Menu shortcut.


Final words for the players out there: an operating system has two major components:
1. The user interface (what you see). That's about less than 1% of the OS (and that number is lower for most folks out there since they don't use, therefore see everything an OS has to offer).
2. The actual operating system (what you don't see). That's the remaining 99%.

If Microsoft made a mistake with Windows 8's user interface, as an operating system, it worked quite well and is definitely an upgrade from Windows 7. I would not recommend upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 8 as Windows 7 is already a pretty solid operating system and you won't gain much outside turning your computer on and off faster. If you are good with computers though, you can easily change the user interface of Windows 8 to one so close to Windows 7, most people would never notice.

I like to think one who knows how to deal with computers, knows how to adapt the computer to him/herself instead of adapting him/herself to the computer.