New Inner Beast DR.. the end all be all skill

[Oblit]

Damage reduction from Inner Beast only last for a few seconds...

[Warrlordd]

With a PLD's strength reduction debuff and a WAR's slash resistance debuff, a PLD+WAR combo will be most optimal. Provided both are decent tanks

[Judge_Xero]

The HP and Healing bonus with be about equal to Shield Oath. So that puts Inner Beast to be compared against the other PLD CDs. Isn't the buff 30% for 6 seconds? Cant remember. You'll also be getting a self heal of 400-1000 depending on buffs and RNG. But chances are you will be topped off before a big hit.
Can see way more War\Pld groups forming with the changes.

[Judge_Xero]

Right. Vengeance will be 30% and IB is 20%.

[Leiron]

You may be considering a strength pot Paikis.

[PenutButter]

Seems like a lot of people here are just "QQing about job simply because its my job" again, which is exactly what I was expecting anyways. Personally, I think the new WAR changes are a bit too strong but we won't know for sure til we can actually do comprehensive tests ourselves. I assume that the developers at least tested these changes extensively so they are probably in a better position to comment on balance.

[Kaelon79]

You are also forgetting to factor in Warriors get the advantage of Storms Path - The combo bonus now also reduces damage dealt by enemies by 10%.

They removed this from bard rain and gave it to warriors basicly forcing groups to take a warrior for all content until a group is completely geared to compensate the dmg reduction on top of all the other warrior buffs. I know they needed qol changes like some of the other classes but this is buff list is just laughable and mostly a result of the qq because they certainly didn't need all this.

Warriors crying they can't do content but it has been shown they can do all content just fine once properly geared. Heck even a WHM can tank titan hardmode while warriors claim they couldn't.

[Leonus]

You are also forgetting to factor in Warriors get the advantage of Storms Path - The combo bonus now also reduces damage dealt by enemies by 10%.

They removed this from bard rain and gave it to warriors basicly forcing groups to take a warrior for all content until a group is completely geared to compensate the dmg reduction on top of all the other warrior buffs. I know they needed qol changes like some of the other classes but this is buff list is just laughable and mostly a result of the qq because they certainly didn't need all this.


Warriors crying they can't do content but it has been shown they can do all content just fine once properly geared. Heck even a WHM can tank titan hardmode while warriors claim they couldn't.

They could have just nerfed pld to be more inline with war.

That is the complete honest truth, but i guess these changes bring more dynamics to the group and put war more in line with pld. There was two options, either nerf pld (which would have caused a bunch of rage quitting from players) or make war competitive to pld so that not only could you do content with Pld/Pld or Pld/War, but also War/War.

You call it QoL changes, when really most of the changes (maybe not all) needed to take place because, War is/was currently, straight up a weaker tank than pld when you have them both equally geared. Period, there are no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

[Leiron]

The issue is that nerfing PLD would have made completing the content much more difficult than necessary.

[Vortok]

Heaven forbid people have to play well and coordinate with their party in order to complete the hardest content available.