Why don't they realise yet? Stat-based combat systems aren't fun!

[Neptune]

are those both MMO's or what? never heard of them.....

I think they're PS3 exclusives, offline though. Demon's Souls has been out for a long time now and Dark Souls is sort of the sequel to it although not real, its kind of its successor. Good games.

Demon's Souls

Dark Souls

lol. allow me. demon's souls IS online. it's basically like an mmo except out of all the massive amounts of people playing the game, you have a max party limit of 3. think of it as a single player game that you play with other people. i HIGHLY recommend anyone that likes MMOs to give it a try. it doesn't have stat-based combat, it has skill-based combat, but it is in fact a deep RPG.