Why I quit

[yukikaze_yanagi]

and whats massive in a istance existing only for you and your party ?a mass of invisible people doing the same thing ? Lol

[RathSkybreaker]

Massive means extremely large, which could refer to the zone, not directly stating the amount of players in a said instance.

[Vesperia]

Massive means extremely large, which could refer to the zone, not directly stating the amount of players in a said instance.

Gee thanks Webster's Dictionary.

[Warlyx]

when u log off from diablo or guild wars the zone just dissapear and no1 cant go there , since u were the "host" of it... (other than "hubs" or lobbys )

in FFXIV if u log off , the world still exist and continue w/o u , in Gw or Diablo no.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

Massive means extremely large, which could refer to the zone, not directly stating the amount of players in a said instance.

...for real ? LOL
sorry to say this, but in your conception of mmorpg any multiplayer game should be a mmorpg, even something like burnout paradise or red dead redemption.
face it, diablo and guild wars are pseudo-mmorpg.

[InuraBera]

Lol I don't know his intentions but "unqualified"? lol the game is as low on subs for a free MMO as it gets.

It isn't a free MMO however, it is a pay-to-play MMO that they are not charging you for until they have 'fixed' it, rather than being free-to-play as that is the intention. There is a slight difference, is there not?

As to people quitting etc, the lack of x, y and z. We know. Everyone knows. The development teams knows, probably even your granny knows. These are not interesting or fresh discussions, these have been the same since the game came out - and they are going to fix it. Sadly things take time, but they are rolling, and hopefully soon we get some bigger changes outside of monster sizes. I think Square Enix could care less that you quit, at least until they serve up version number two - if you don't like that, then they are in trouble.

Aion is currently doing a 're-activation' and I hadn't thought about the game in about a year and nine months, but am currently really enjoying playing it (and my brother even more so) so they do work - I didn't have anything good or bad to think about it, I'd pretty much totally forgotten it, but coming back into the world since many, many changes happened has been great. This could work very well for Final Fantasy XIV in the future as well - despite the "if it isn't good NOW, I never want to see it again" mentality that people seem to believe they have, I have no doubt folks would fire it up for an hour or so if they got such an e-mail, and maybe even get hooked by then - if what they played they enjoyed.

Remember World of Warcraft when it launched? Compared to now it was nothing in terms of the sheer size and scope that it is now - but at the same time, they could begin making and launching content as they didn't want to rebuild the underlying mechanisms from the ground up. Hopefully once Final Fantasy XIV gets the groundwork completed, things actually start moving at a pace you'd expect in terms of 'content'.

Until then, I'm not fussed, playing other games, jumping on Final Fantasy XIV when I feel the need to do something outside of eternally kill stuff.

Also, I wouldn't call Diablo an MMO at all, MMORPG is a specific genre of RPG - not just the fact that it is online, sadly however many companies ARE just trying to make an online RPG rather than taking advantage of the fact that these games are generally persistant worlds in which you can experience essentially a different life. The Aion trailer from a couple years back, the 'Vision' one, is the kind of thing I'd hope for/expect from EVERY MMORPG, but since the days of the original Star Wars Galaxies things are going backwards to the point where instead of scope, you get a watered down RPG compared to singleplayer/multiplayer ones (by that, I mean things such as Neverwinter Nights and the like)

Anyway, that is it for me.

[Mack]

It isn't a free MMO however, it is a pay-to-play MMO that they are not charging you for until they have 'fixed' it, rather than being free-to-play as that is the intention. There is a slight difference, is there not?

Yes there is. Whereas FTP MMOs strain your pockets, FFXIV takes no more than $15 to purchase and play...so in essence, FFXIV is way cheaper than an FTP MMO and people are still not playing it. This is a big problem.

Hopefully once Final Fantasy XIV gets the groundwork completed, things actually start moving at a pace you'd expect in terms of 'content'.

Hopefully...but there are some things I don't see them ever changing. Like how central leves are or how dull maps are for instance...its too bad.

[Draven]

Massively cannot have meaning I think without a word to modify, in this case it's modifiying Multiplayer. So if that's correct then MM means a lot of people. No size of game.

In regards to XI, I think it's really silly for people to praise what XI was so much. And it's even more ridiculous for people to admire how "hard" they think the game was.

I don't think the game was hard at all. It had a very long~ leveling process combined with little to no solo capability, forcing players to not only group together, but to do so for hours and hours in order to get to cap. This isn't hard, it's a giant time sink. My personal opinion is that THAT is not good game design. Good game design in my opinion is about giving players a choice. In XI, you have very little choice. You played the game in a very linear way and that way was almost always requiring you to group for just about anything. Again, no choice is not good game design imo.

FFXIV gives you a lot of choice. So much choice that you have to make an effort and a plan you prefer for leveling. What choices can you make? Well Discipline for one is our greatest choice. We can choose very different game play styles as our main activity. Battle, Gathering and Crafting.

Picking Battle for example you have a choice. Solo or group play. And you can do that all~the way to 50 picking one or combining the two. That's a very good thing I think. Choice.

There are a number of things though that are hindering XIV such as fatigue, lack of party search and lack of story (for a FF game). The first two I think right now are playing a big role in holding back a lot of party play in this game.

Honestly, the game isn't that bad. It's the community. People are LAZY (or many cases like myself short on time) and they won't bother with making XI style parties unless they absolutely have to. Seriously, almost everyone seems to be like this. They can't be bothered to join or make a party for whatever number of reasons. They choose to solo until they face the SP hill and then they'll group up. Not because they want to, but because they feel they have to now.

XI wasn't hard and it didn't have a good community because it was hard. XI had a decent community and a higher chance of making friends through FORCED grouping. It wasn't bad for it's time but gaming has evolved tremendously and a game like XI launched now stands no chance of commercial success with so many other MMOs providing far more entertaining experiences.

I honestly believe that the gaming community has also changed since early XI. Back then, more people had significantly more patience I think and more positive thinking. They enjoyed the game for what it was and enjoyed getting to know other people in the game. Todays gaming is not like that at all. Why? I could write a book why, but I won't.

OP this game has it's issues and I question my own future in this game from time to time. There are so~ many more games out there and coming. If we're not enjoying the game right now, I see no reason why we shouldn't take a break, play a different game and come back if we want to later when they've made the proper adjustments.

[Nero]

i just had fun lol'ing at another Trollthread.

1. if you DONT like this game, dont play it.
2. If you DO like this game, play it.

It is that easy. Noone cares about "I quit, because..." Threads. Want you want to say with Threads like that? You are saying the game is to hard for you? You are saying you cant stand it cause you are a WoW-Player? You want to play FFXI-2? Go play FFXI first and all its content, then come back and say that again. Most of you Guys didnt even reach ONE rank to 50, so how you think you are knowing the Game? You dont know ***..

YES there is missing content, but its COMING. Its confirmed and FFXI was the same.. even worse imo. I played it at the start and NOT at NA start where SE allready added a lot of Content. So please Trolls stay out of this discussion if you didnt play it that Time.

You want to quit? Go for it.. Have fun playing another WoW-clone.

You scream for changes? Go learn programming and learn what it means and how long some Stuff take to implement.

You dont like this Game? Stop crying then and just go.

You like this Game? Good choice, now start and back up SE. Trollthreads dont help anyone, they are just frustating.. and you people wonder how Yoshi changed his attitude? No i dont wonder at all.. i would change it too, if i just look at all this Trollpost from WoW-Players, little Kids and Crybabies.

You Guys are still screaming and crying for changes. GOD .. SE is on it.. did you guys even play the last couple Month to realize the HUGE amount of Stuff SE changed? Good things needs time, so if you pull out all that crying *** SE is under Time-pressure and some Stuff wont work out and then.. you guys will cry again. Im so tired of it and i seriously dont even post much cause of it. You want a working Game? Im sure SE wants a nice community and not TONS of crybabies. You play this Game for FREE till SE gets to a point where they say, the Game is what they want it to be.

NOONE OF YOU HAVE ROOM TO TALK OR COMPLAIN... YOU ARE PLAYING THIS GAME FOR FREE!.

enough said.. sick of that childish ***.

OH BTW.

you guys are sick of doing leves? Stop doing the same 3 leves then. AND THERE ARE Camps like in FFXI. Go and play and you will finally learn something about a Game you are complaining about... I dont think most of you actually tried it or played long enough to figure Stuff.

[Shika]

You have to understand that a lot of people feel the same about the game at the moment, for many it is coming up to "crunch" time where they want to see lots of decent changes and events introduced so that after 9 months there is actually something other than quests for pointless rewards once you have a rank 50, leves, a few NMs, crafting or gathering to mainly do in the game.

Although I agree that "I quit for so and so reason" threads do not necessarily help change anything, people could also argue that the game may be free to play but they had to fork out for the cost of the game in the first place. (Just playing devil's advocate.)

So, as I have seen constantly over the last few weeks, people are simply venting their frustration the more that time goes on.

And no, I personally do not count mob and spell/battle effect resizing, changing the market ward names, fiddling with mob distribution, putting in a few "go kill X number of this" quests, adjusting the still useless targetting system 3 times for little improvement, a coloured aggro indicator blob and level on mobs, removal of "curious" mob AI, collision detection etc etc as anything major. It is the complete overhaul of the battle system, changes to the class system, introduction of JSE and unlockable specialization jobs, Dungeons- PvE, Companies, materia system and so on that people are waiting for with bated breath.

This is a General Discussion thread so people do actually have every right to "talk or complain" regarding the state that FFXIV is in currently. We are the customers. After all, isn't that why SE set this forum up in the first place? - To see player feedback, thoughts and complaints to do with the game about things that need fixing to turn this beached whale into a success? There are usually more often troll threads or complaints rather than actual useful suggestions on the forum but that's inevitable, and to be honest is mostly down to us to ignore so that they die quickly, or the community reps to close down if they are pointless and/or inappropriate.

(This post is directed at Karon's above)