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    Default aggro sorts by character name?

    It's been discussed on Reddit for the past few days that the default aggro sort is alphabetical. Is there any plans to fix this issue? Do all tanks to rename to AAA AAA and all healers rename to ZZZ ZZZ ?

    Just redo the default aggro to sort highest HP for an easy fix...

    Anyone else feel this issue is effecting their game play?
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    If you mean the party list you can resort that by hitting "o", clicking the name and using the arrows on the bottom of the window to shift positions.
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    Vex Blackmarrow
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    I would need you to elaborate on what exactly "default aggro" is. Monsters tend to leash onto whoever has aggroed them until regen is casted and then they hunt the WHM to the edge of the atlas in a fountain of bottomless rage. The only other thing I could think of is when you enter a boss room and as soon as the tank pulls the boss it momentarily targets/scares the crap out of someone else in the party before jkin' and returning to the person who pulled.
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    See: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._every_single/

    and: http://ns.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comment...betical_order/

    Basically if 8 people run in and no spells are cast... (body pull) the mob will go after the person with the name closest to AAA AAA apparently...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobo View Post
    See: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._every_single/

    and: http://ns.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comment...betical_order/

    Basically if 8 people run in and no spells are cast... (body pull) the mob will go after the person with the name closest to AAA AAA apparently...
    Why is this even an issue? There is no feasable reason that I can see for 8 people to run into battle with nobody using abilities. Feel free to correct me if I'm missing something here but it seems like a rather pointless.
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    Bit odd I've never noticed this, I've always seen it go for the first person it sees like if you are running wp sr, tank can run rough first pull not attacking and get everything until first spell is cast
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    Why is this even an issue? There is no feasable reason that I can see for 8 people to run into battle with nobody using abilities. Feel free to correct me if I'm missing something here but it seems like a rather pointless.
    It's popping up as an issue for people during Turn 5. Simply because your body pulling for 1 sec before your in shield lob range.... and then if shield lob misses it will still follow it's alphabetical default aggro sort.

    Situation:
    Tank runs in... pulls aggro and shield lobs.
    shield lob misses and boss now goes for the healer named AAA AAA (healer AAA AAA has done nothing since the fight started... no regen cast no heals only buffs pre-fight)


    Edit: This is apparently what tanks are doing to get around this bug for T5:

    "tell the MT to pop bloodbath as soon as twintania aggros. that little bit of aggro it generates was just enough for me to get a shield lob in and made for pretty smooth pulls"
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    seem to happen only when all member have the same aggro ( in this case 0). it an issue. a very small one. I would rather them fixing other higher priority issued
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    We've had this happen on Twintania several times now. When the tank runs in to engage Twintania will automatically aggro to whoever has a name starting with 'A' rather than the tank.

    It's not really a huge issue since the tank can easily grab threat back but it is extremely odd...

    I will note I've only seen it happen on Twintania though, nowhere else.
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    Sure, you "could" code the mobs to initially attack in alphabetical order, but it's strategically idiotic. I need to see evidence, like a YouTube video, the source code, or an answer from the author of the code.
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