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    ZenBear's Avatar
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    Hector Heinrick
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    1. right now, there's no reason to use Storm's Path because it's both expensive and provides laughable self healing.

    2. The people that think that WAR is defined by self-healing only believe that because Inner Beast throws up a big self-heal number. If all that the class had was Bloodbath and Storm's Path, no one would say *anything* about WAR being a self-healing tank. It's the big number that Inner Beast throws up *alone* that makes people think that WAR is a self-healing tank, and, if you've actually looked at how much it really contributes, you'd realize that Inner Beast (in its current implementation) *isn't* actually key to the WAR playstyle.

    WAR is, and always has been, defined by Wrath, not self-healing. It isn't bad implementation of the concept of a self-healing tank that is being fixed. They're addressing the fact that the wrong mitigation mechanic (self healing) was chosen to be placed upon the primary tool used as part of the playstyle mechanic (Wrath) that actually defines the class.

    3. I already explained exactly why your original idea was bad and what would need to be done to make it actually work.

    4. 2.1 is "on the verge of dangerously homogenizing WAR/PLD" so you opened it up for discussion. Anyone that has actually played the two classes or looked at anything concerning the changes beyond the terms "damage reduction" and "self healing" would realize that the two tanks are *still* going to play completely differently.
    Haha, wow... you are way too worked up about this.

    1. You claim that *usable* and *actual* identity defines the class; I disagree. The developers define the class because it's their creation. Part of that creation (an integral part) was self-healing, as is evident by the fact that MRD/WAR is the only class with self-only healing. Yes, Wrath is the defining mechanic between MRD and WAR. Still doesn't change the fact that MRD is part of WAR and therefore everything that defines MRD also defines WAR, ableit only partly so. On top of that, as I said, Wrath boosts 2 things: max hp, and healing. Both synergize with a "self-healing soak tank." You can deny it all you want, you'll still be wrong.

    2. I'm one of these people you're talking about and I'm telling you you are wrong. It is the combination of Bloodbath, Storm's Path, Inner Beast and the +healing on Wrath stacks that make the WAR a self-healer. Don't try to tell me what I think, if you disagree with me then you are wrong.

    3. Way to be insulting. Does it make you feel better to put me down? I bet it does.

    4. Correct, I did mention it in passing. You are right, the classes are still very different. I admit my initial comment you are quoting was an exaggeration.

    Seriously though, you need to calm down. Agree to disagree and move on with your life.
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    Last edited by ZenBear; 12-13-2013 at 12:22 PM.
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