What is the correct way of labeling artifact armor?

[Yamimarik]

Not sure there is an official by Yoshi or the Devs what the current gear we have is called honestly. I'm pretty sure somewhere in one of the AF quests it's called Artifact armor or something.

Any who... I go by this little formula and I know most FFXI people do too.

Artifact Armor(Quested lvl's45/50)=AF1
Relic Armor(Acquired by Myth. Tomes.)=AF2/Relic
Mysterious "AF2" Armor shown by Yoshida(The below image)=AF3


Is it following your or the Devs/Yoshi's logic? Probably not, honestly just call it what you want. As long as others understand what you're talking about, what does it honestly matter?

[Cidel]

^I agree with Yamimarik

When I first saw the new sets of classic JSE in Revenant's Toll, I immediately started calling them "Relic," because the 2nd set of classic JSE in XI was referred to "Relic" as well. Additionally, it was commonly referred to in XI as AF2 as well. So when someone in my linkshell immediately began to deny that this new i90 gear to be deserving of the title "Relic" (It's not purple-background like the weapon, blah blah whine whine), I settled on AF2.

Now, once it has been announced on concept sketches that our upcoming JSE is labelled "AF2," am I seeing this being blown up into a "thing." Quite frankly, I'm surprised the dev team was either oblivious to the titles players have given to the i90 set in absence of an official name, or knowingly decided to name their new set "AF2" despite it being the frequent name of our i90 set.

[Krystalynn]

so when the real AF2 comes out what are you gonna call em? Stop confusing ppl!

AF3? Not that hard. It's only 'real' to you because you decided it to be. The images shown by the team of content in development is the second model set created by the team. As far as the artists go, it is AF2 because it is the second model designed by them for the purpose of being tier sets, however the player does not see this visibility.

Let's take the look of the set completely out of the picture. Artistically, let us remove the entire model from the discussion. Let us look at the item itself, from one tier to the next and stack them beside each other. Then what the game tells us functions as the +1 mechanic.

For Curtana to be +1, as an upgrade, it requires Curtana and a regeant. The item is then destroyed, and given in a new state called Curtana +1. This means this is now a +1 Relic weapon.

Does this criteria apply, to our current AF1 set? Does it? So what is it we buy with Myth? Seems like an entirely new, named set to me. It doesn't even share the same name or stat scheme.

This is a new tier of AF armor. It is AF2. To think otherwise is to confuse yourselves.

As for the developer concept sketch?
(* Development screenshot—subject to change. Yes, this is a thing for a reason.)

[Mazi]

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That picture blatently says AF2 so that is not up for debate period.
The Myth gear IS THE EXACT SAME MODEL AS AF it is just a recolor and is stronger which is very obviously an upgraded version of AF. What do we call upgraded versions of things? HQ or +1.

[Krystalynn]

The Myth gear IS THE EXACT SAME MODEL AS AF it is just a recolor and is stronger which is very obviously an upgraded version of AF. What do we call upgraded versions of things? HQ or +1.

It's not an upgraded piece of gear, it's a better piece of gear than the previous one. It isn't even directly related. It shares a similarly colored model. There are many items that have similar models, with recolors, in new tiers.

Iron and Steel Sabatons share the same model as Hoplite. We don't view these set tiers as upgrades. Yes one is an upgrade over the other, but the term upgrade usually is reserved to an item that is improved upon. Not simply the verbal sense of acquiring better gear.

When a game like FFXIV has items that can be "+1" like relic items, it makes no sense to exacerbate confusion by applying this to items that DO NOT have the moniker attached to it. Valor Surcoat isn't Gallant Surcoat +1.

It's "Valor Surcoat".

[Mazi]

It's not an upgraded piece of gear, it's a better piece of gear than the previous one. It isn't even directly related. It shares a similarly colored model. There are many items that have similar models, with recolors, in new tiers.

Iron and Steel Sabatons share the same model as Hoplite. We don't view these set tiers as upgrades. Yes one is an upgrade over the other, but the term upgrade usually is reserved to an item that is improved upon. Not simply the verbal sense of acquiring better gear.

When a game like FFXIV has items that can be "+1" like relic items, it makes no sense to exacerbate confusion by applying this to items that DO NOT have the moniker attached to it. Valor Surcoat isn't Gallant Surcoat +1.

It's "Valor Surcoat".

AF1 for blm = Wizard's

AF+1 for blm = Sorcerer's

The name plus appearance makes them related.

And to add further, you go from Drachen to Wyrm where a Wyrm is an elder dragon which shows an advanced version.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

why would you called it AF3 when is called AF2?

You're confusing people more.

[Nihonnick]

lvl45/50 Gear is JSE (Job Specific Euipment
ilvl90 is Artifact Armor
soon we're have AF2 ilvl100??

this is how I decied to lable it. makes the most sense to me.

Or

lvl45/50 AF
ilvl90 Relic Armor
ilvl100? AF2

DEVS!!! Answers plz ok go

[Krystalynn]

why would you called it AF3 when is called AF2?

You're confusing people more.

I gave you the reasons in my post. When you're capable of reading, I'm sure it will become clear to you. Hopefully giving you a broader understanding on why others may disagree with you, and why this thread exists in the first place.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

I gave you the reasons in my post. When you're capable of reading, I'm sure it will become clear to you. Hopefully giving you a broader understanding on why others may disagree with you, and why this thread exists in the first place.

throwing out still in development, yes i read that and is true, but the fact that is called AF2 atm, not to be confused that is not AF3 in the slightest at this moment until it changes officially.

So that is why i said it that you're confusing people.