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    Player
    Murakamo's Avatar
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    Selendis Aiur
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50

    Square Enix's RNG

    Anyone else feel like SE's RNG is a complete joke?

    I have been crafting all night getting about 80-90% chance of HQ and swear I have failed about 50% of the time.

    Meanwhile I barely get any HQ with 15-20% chance HQ.

    Same goes for gathering. Several misses in a row on 80% chance.

    They really need to update their RNG formula.

    /rant
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    fixitman's Avatar
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    Fixitana Fortanceste
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    The RNG works properly, considering the percentages are calculated per action. There doesn't seem to be any long-term calculation going on (nor should there be). I get occasional NQ results with 99% quality, and I have missed 6 times in a row on 99% gathering. That's how real life works sometimes, so why not have the game work the same way? Sometimes, luck just isn't on (y)our side.
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    Yaladilae Hallucinate
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    Cerberus
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    Culinarian Lv 50
    RNG is a joke

    What a random joke
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    Doson Nine
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Keep this thread going. When I wake up i want to read about people bitching about RNG. I love RNG. My favorite way to get loot. I wonder if i'll get my Allagan weapon before 2.2? Just love being rewarded for clearing hard content. Wait. I haven't.
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  5. #5
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    Arya Underfoot
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I've HQed with 2% chance as well as missed with 99%. Thats what rng is, it's random. Chance is chance. High chance doesn't make it certain it just makes it more likely. It's just (bad) luck.
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    AdvancedWind's Avatar
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    Ashley Zeibel
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I've HQed a lot of stuff on auto synthesis (1%HQ chance) and I've also failed a few 95%+ HQ crafting. RNG is RNG.
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    Professor Meowingtons
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    Siren
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    Fisher Lv 50
    RNG is certainly RNG with a small sample set, but a large sample size of a couple hundred synths should be closer to the expected percentage. The largest sample I tested was 100 synths at 80% chance and my average was 67% success. That probably isn't a big enough sample though.
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    Lafiel Abriel
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    I don't get why in every single game there are these people who will makes these claims of incorrect RnG with completely no backing at all. I feel like people throw around this word without even knowing what it means.
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  9. #9
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    Pikken Moonchild
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    No, a couple hundred is not a large enough sample size.

    Last night, I helped my 5th grade daughter with math homework. She was to throw a die 100 times and make a frequency table with the results. Before that she should also guess how many 4s she would get.

    Lo and behold, she got twice as many 3s as 4s! But she did not blame the die for having bad RNG, instead she learnt something.
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    Rosetta Rouge
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    RNG is just a RNG. Though putting random and computer together isn't really all that random. Look it up, the actual name is pseudo-RNG, meaning it attempts to be random like but really isn't because a computer can't just pick a number out of thin air like we can rolling a 100 sided die. The only thing going against you is likely the time seed they usually use for RNGs. So don't blame the RNG, blame the time! (Unless SE doesn't use time to seed the RNG, then blame whatever they seed)
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