Loot lockouts should be based on Job

[DoctorPepper]

This has been discussed previously but I feel like bringing it up again due to the recent announcement that loot will be locked out in CT.

Personally, one of the biggest attractions to this game, aside from the fact that it's Final Fantasy, is the innovative armory system they've put into place allowing you to experience multiple jobs on a single character. I love the idea surrounding this and being an altoholic in other games it's a big plus to me that I don't have to complete the same quests/missions on additional characters to experience a different style of gameplay.

That said, the biggest issue I'm finding with all these lockouts is that they are set per character rather than per job. I would be very happy if SE would reconsider their decision to make lockouts work in this fashion so that I can experience the other jobs without having to make an additional character.

I believe that if the lockouts on drops were based on the job that the item was meant for and that the tomes were given for use with your currently equipped job it would not only force people to experience said job to the fullest extent rather than using their tank/healer to grind tomes for other jobs, it would also provide incentive for people to log in more often.

If SE would reconsider their decision to make lockouts per character I think that a lot of people would be very happy and it would still provide a barrier so that even the most hardcore players can't fully gear every job in a short amount of time, which I'm assuming is the base reasoning behind the lockouts.

[Borfin]

You don't see how burnt out you'll get on content if you're able to do it ~9 times per week?

If anything, prior tier content should have job-based loot lockouts (i.e. CT), but not current tier (i.e. BC).

I did ToC in WoW when it was 4 separate loot lockouts... I can still recite Jaraxxus' intro speech from memory and that was years ago.

/shudder

[DoctorPepper]

You don't see how burnt out you'll get on content if you're able to do it ~9 times per week?

If anything, prior tier content should have job-based loot lockouts (i.e. CT), but not current tier (i.e. BC).

How does getting burnt out have anything to do with this? Nobody is forcing people to play their other jobs but right now the armory system is completely pointless. Personally I would have a lot more fun if I had something to do besides craft/gather and grind 4 mans for philo once I'm capped, even moreso now that all my crafts are finished to 50.

[Borfin]

How does getting burnt out have anything to do with this? Nobody is forcing people to play their other jobs

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Nobody forcing anyone doesn't prevent people from trying to stay competitive. Having the option to have all of the classes geared will make SOME people feel like they have to do it, and in some cases they will.

I have more experience in WoW than any other MMO and this is comparable, so I'll use it again: You run into the same problem you had when 10 man/25 man separate lockouts were introduced in ToC - 4 different lockouts, one on 10m normal, one 10m heroic, 25m normal and 25m heroic. Guilds would run all four because they could in an attempt to gear up as many people/alts as fast as they could to keep their options open.

And as a tank at that time, I can tell you - I initially enjoyed ToC, by the end of it, I loathed the instance and to this day refuse to run it on any of my characters. ToC is widely regarded as one of the biggest flops of raid content introduced in the history of WoW and this is one of the largest reasons why.

If you run a SMN, can you honestly say your FC won't ask you to gear up your SCH so you can heal when their regular SCH is absent? What if you have a 50 PLD you've never touched? If you're in a competitive group, of course they will.

This many loot lockouts for current content is a bad idea. I like it for gearing alts in content that's already outdated, but when it's the best of the best stuff available... No, no, no, just no. I don't want BC turning into another ToC that I despise.

[DoctorPepper]

Nobody forcing anyone doesn't prevent people from trying to stay competitive. Having the option to have all of the classes geared will make SOME people feel like they have to do it, and in some cases they will.

So you're trying to tell me that those people who want to stay competitive aren't already grinding wp non-stop for DL gear? I have several people on my flist who have all battle classes at 50 and all they do is finish coil/cap myth on their main and then do literally nothing but grind wp for DL on their other jobs and unlock new relics, some have every relic already. Making lockouts based on your job rather than based on your character would do nothing but expand the options since rather than mindlessly grind wp you can change jobs and enjoy literally all the content endgame has to offer rather than a single dungeon.

[Mitski]

You don't see how burnt out you'll get on content if you're able to do it ~9 times per week?

There's a big difference between being able and being forced to do it multiple times per week. I don't think the burnout factor is relevant to the OP's scenario.

[GilbertLapine]

You don't see how burnt out you'll get on content if you're able to do it ~9 times per week?

If anything, prior tier content should have job-based loot lockouts (i.e. CT), but not current tier (i.e. BC).

I did ToC in WoW when it was 4 separate loot lockouts... I can still recite Jaraxxus' intro speech from memory and that was years ago.

/shudder

So that means we shouldn't have the option? O_o?

[teoulas]

CT is not current tier. Plus I think I'll get bored more easily doing CT 1 time per week than 9 times per week cause if I do 1 time and 1 time coil then there is nothing else to do.

[Djeserit]

CT is not current tier. Plus I think I'll get bored more easily doing CT 1 time per week than 9 times per week cause if I do 1 time and 1 time coil then there is nothing else to do.

Because the item you want is guaranteed to drop, and you are guaranteed to win the roll. Right?


...Oh, no? You still have to compete with others AND the RNG. Guess you won't be doing CT once unless it's an extremely lucky week then.

[Tiggy]

CT is not current tier. Plus I think I'll get bored more easily doing CT 1 time per week than 9 times per week cause if I do 1 time and 1 time coil then there is nothing else to do.

Correction. It's not YOUR current tier.

Thanks.