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    Sirantha's Avatar
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    Sirantha Swift
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    WP: taking out the adds in last fight

    When taking out the Tonberry adds in the final fight, which class/role should be priority? Usually I see ranged DPS doing it, but recently I've been asked to do it as healer and I'm not sure what I should be doing.

    In your opinion, which role should be taking out the adds and why? And for those of you who think the healer should, what's the best practice/tips on how to do it?
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    Inori Vince
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    If you are in a speed run, usually ppl get the Whm to holy the adds down. It speed things up alot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenithx View Post
    If you are in a speed run, usually ppl get the Whm to holy the adds down. It speed things up alot.
    In a SR do people generally still stick to the 3 - 4 adds max at a time? I'm comfortable with healing the dungeon and even DPSing up to that point, but when it hits the Tonberry King I'm not sure what's optimal for me to be doing.
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    Qui'qui Snafkin
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    If you are sp it implies everyone is over geared, allowing for whm to do that. If you are not in sp it does not apply. Thats the distinction.
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    Lil Muffins
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    Conjurer Lv 63
    For the Tonberry King you should mostly be in Cleric stance. Before you go into Cleric Stance, throw a Regen on the tank and/or Stoneskin then go into Cleric Stance.

    I just pretty much do DPS then, and throw on a Stoneskin in between every 4 casts or so. When you see the text come up about how he's attacking, throw a stoneskin on the tank ASAP. It should mitigate pretty much all of it, for the first few times you won't really need to turn off cleric stance to heal, just throw a regen even with cleric stance on (since it's a pain sometimes; but you can turn it off as you want); rinse repeat and then near the end of the fight if all the Tonberry's at pushing on the Tank, use Holy. Holy them all dead.

    Remember that even in Cleric Stance, the amount Stoneskin does isn't equivalent to your stats, only the tanks; which doesn't change when you use Cleric Stance. So Stoneskin is your friend, especially with the stabbity attack he does.

    Usually after the holy of all the adds that smack on the Tank, the Tonberry king should soon die. If he still has a bit of HP left then I usually turn off Cleric Stance and go into heal mode so that if another stabbity attack comes around, I'm ready to save their life.

    I think it's best to let the DPS take out the first bundle of Tonberry's that come around since they can do it easily and your eyes should be fixated on the tank anyway, but the DPS should stop doing it when the large group of Tonberries spawn so you can holy them; one cast of the Holy and you kill like, 5 of them as opposed to the time the DPS has to wait for the GCD between each tonberry
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    Last edited by CalvatE; 12-06-2013 at 09:37 PM.

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    One_WingedAngel's Avatar
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    Relm Arrowmy
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuikui View Post
    If you are sp it implies everyone is over geared, allowing for whm to do that. If you are not in sp it does not apply. Thats the distinction.
    It actually more to do with tank, if he has 5k+hp you can kill all adds all of the time and the most effective way is for whm to holy once if your int is high I think 450ish, twice if your int is around 400 ish.
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    Tirion Crey
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    There are 2 ways to do it as a WHM. Either you let the adds walk towards the middle(none will aggro anyone and start attacking til they reach the middle) and you just Holy them alltogether. Or you simply single target Aero them. Preferably in Cleric Stance. With decent gear one Aero and the DoT will kill off a tonberry.

    I prefer the Holy way, cause it's one spell(2 max) and you also hit Tonberry King for some extra DPS on the boss.
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    Jeyza Re
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by kuikui View Post
    If you are sp it implies everyone is over geared, allowing for whm to do that. If you are not in sp it does not apply. Thats the distinction.
    I think this is the big thing. If you are in a "SR" run, you signed up for doing whatever is needed to make the run as fast as possible, which means the healer is probably handling adds. If you feel uncomfortable with this, let the group know prior to joining or queueing so they can be informed. If you join a normal WP (or what I prefer, Well Paced... a few pulls at a time, but kill most stuff and nothing too stressful) or DF, people should expect a DPS on the adds, not the healer.
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    Fated Erskine
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    Speed run or not, you can still Holy them down. The only time the tank needs focused cures is right after Everyone's Grudge. Outside of that, Regen + Medica II will probably take care of the healing throughout the fight.
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    It really depends on the party comp, everyone's gear, and how comfortable you are with Grudge.

    As a WHM, you can do adds like others have said...but...it does depend on the tank. They need to be able to tank 5 stacks if you do the Holy method.

    If you're not comfortable with that, a BRD or BLM is best for adds, since they're ranged and can take them out quickly. If you don't have either, SMN and DRG are next; SMN is ranged, but will kill adds slower, DRG is melee, but kills fast. MNK should probably just sit on the boss.
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